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Postby KJo » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:27 pm

5/10NL at the Bike. My stack around $2500, villain $1000.

Villain is a well-known fixture, he knows how to play. He just got to the table. I've seen him do this before- buy in light (in this case $1000), then add to it if he either busts or feels like he needs it. But he seems to warm up with a lighter stack like this.

He opens in EP for $45. I call OTB with 99. Flop is 552 with two spades. He bets $85, I raise it to $300, he pushes, I fold. Fairly simple hand so far.

But I'm not a math whiz and would love to hear any input from those who are about whether I did the right thing or not. At the point I folded it was $690 in the pot and $660 to call. All I have to decide is whether he's got AK, an overpair to my 99, or an underpair (which I believe is the least likely since he's smart enough to put me on a medium pair of some kind). Overcard spades are also a possibility, but I do have one spade. Anyone care to help out here with the right move by the numbers?


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Postby Zmej » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:58 pm

You need to construct a reasonable range like {TT+, AKo, flush draws}, where
{flush draws} = {Axs, KQ, KJ, KT, QJ, JT, suited in spades }.
If you feel that his range is different add other hands, then plug it in into pokerstove (free download). For the range that I constructed you have 39% equity turning your fold into a call. (Notice, though that he has a very large 'bluff' component in his range, i.e. he pushes all his AKo.)

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

54,450 games 0.016 secs 3,403,125 games/sec

Board: 5s 2s 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.529% 38.53% 00.00% 20979 0.00 { 9h9s }
Hand 1: 61.471% 61.47% 00.00% 33471 0.00 { JJ+, AKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, A5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, QsJs, JsTs, AKo }
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Postby DoctorHandles » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:15 am

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1. Make $40K by year end.
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3. Read 5-10 new Poker Books w/ notes.
4. Become regular at $2/$4 FR
5. Try some $5/$10 FR
6. Work on Game non-stop.
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Postby Zmej » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:13 pm

"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.

"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
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Postby DoctorHandles » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:30 pm

Ok Jimmy Jet I'll do you a favor and explain this to you, in hopes you'll do me a favor and get a hotter avatar (sorry her face is gross).

You're confused with thinking "hero does not call the $85." He does call the $85, and then he raises on top of that.

So on the flop we have $105 in the pot from the preflop action. Villain then bets $85. Our hero calls. Now there is $105 + $85 +$85 in the pot, or $275. Our hero now put an addition $215 raise in ($85 + $215 = $300). So he made LESS than a pot sized raise.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:36 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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