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4-bet pot w/KK, give it up?!? (NL400 5-max)

Postby Triple B » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:56 pm

I ($1035) raise KK to $15. SB ($550, 34/26 type who obv reraises regularly) reraises to $44, BB cold calls. BB (has me covered) is like 50/18 so he could have anything half decent.

So calling this is bad. I repop to $150 (Good size?). SB calls, BB folds.

So pot is ~$340. Villain has $400 behind.

Flop is [Qd][Jd][5s]

Villain checks, I check.

Turn bricks, villain shoves....I fold?

I don't see this as a good spot to bluff for villain. I lose to AA, QQ, JJ. I'm ahead of AK, but villain shouldn't have AK most of the time right? Meaning he should shove or fold preflop with AK.

I guess I just want reassurance that I'm not a weak-tight nit.
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Postby Tatarana » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:42 pm

You raised PF from witch position ?
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Postby DoctorHandles » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:44 pm

Wow dude you must be running hella bad.

I would shove that flop all day. 4-betting KK and folding it is just horrible.
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Postby Triple B » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:57 pm

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Postby Zuccala » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:53 pm

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1. Make $40K by year end.
2. Play at least 100hrs a month.
3. Read 5-10 new Poker Books w/ notes.
4. Become regular at $2/$4 FR
5. Try some $5/$10 FR
6. Work on Game non-stop.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:57 pm

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby hard2tel » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:21 am

I dont think there's anyway i fold KK in this spot. I mean who shoves like that with AA or a set? Its possible obv but I think u got what u wanted when u checked the flop. Most of the time he'll have something fucked up like KT AT 89s..small pp turned into a bluff etc. IMO. Insta call that shit.
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Postby Triple B » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:48 am

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Postby iceman5 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:25 pm

Thats one BAD flop for you. Im not sure what I would do, but I do think if you check the flop (which I have no problem with), you have to call his shove. He thinks you have AK. I cant imagine hes shoving with QQ or JJ there.
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Postby Rhound50 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:41 pm

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Postby shamdonk » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:04 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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Postby Zeestein » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:43 pm

sick, but yeah, this is an insta-fold because you're going to have to be extremely creative to come up with how you're good here
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