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Postby Xaston » Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:45 pm

Villain 1 is new to the table, but bought in for $400 and isn't young so he prolly sucks.

Villain 2 has been at the table a bit longer. He is younger and bought in for $1000. However his play has been pretty suspect so far (Roy feel free to chime in if you disagree with my read). He has limped a bit too frequently, imo, and also min-raised once or twice. One hand he min raised the cutoff, I made it $70 OTB, he called and led the AT3 flop and folded to my raise. Imo that's a terrible line with anything. But he has talked to Roy and I a decent amount and he's going to the Aussie Millions next year, and allegedly visits Vegas every summer and plays a lot (he lives in Vancouver). I would say, if he didn't have me directly to his left, and Roy directly to my left, he would be a winner in the game, but not by a big margin.

Roy and I have been raising his limps a LOT and have both been getting the best of him.

Villain 2 limps in MP and I make it $50 next to go. Villain 1 calls in the BB. The flop comes down 332 with two diamonds. Villain 2 immediatly checks. Villain 1 checks, and villain 2 checks again (since its now actually his turn to act). I bet $120. Villain 1 thinks for not very long before shoving for $410.

"Diamond draw?" asks Villain 2.
Villain 2 ponders for about 50 seconds - 1.5 minutes and says
"Let's gamble," and calls.

The action is on me. Effective stacks to start the hand were about $1200.
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Postby Triple B » Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:57 pm

Do you have cards? If not I would definately give up the hand at this point. :lol:

Edit: I just realized you put your cards in the title. Heh.
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Postby concussed » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:01 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyway...do you feel in control of the situation ? If not, trust your instincts and reads of previous plays and fold.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:11 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby kennyg » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:55 pm

If he hadn't said anything I would agree with Iceman's line of just pushing. But his talk is very very suspect. If you think he was doing it on purpose for you (xaston) to hear, then it's gotta be a fold.
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Postby kokomo44 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:57 pm

"Its a live game and I have an overpair on a very non scary board. Im all in. Thats all there is too it. "

This is bad logic if you are more than 100bb deep. even against bad players.

Due to the insane pot odds i think you have to call and see the next card, becasue you think you might have the best hand you have position and if he is a little passive you should be able to get to show down. (pray for the Qd to turn) :D

if he fired a full shell on turn then you can give him respect for the better hand and let it go.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:03 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby iceman5 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:34 pm

It might be bad, but its worked for me in every live game Ive played in. I see no other play than pushing or folding. I would NEVER just call there.

Kokomo, hes 120BBs deep. Thats not enough more than 100BBs to worry about. Bad players are going broke with 88 in this hand.
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