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Postby JimmyJet » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:13 am

What Sem said. Hand history convertor plz.

You have to scroll down to see what you had and then back up to follow the hand throughout, or sometimes you don't see what you got at all!

That all in luck graph is vicious, hang in there dood.
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Postby Cooper » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:23 am

I don't know what is going on, my graph has NEVER looked anything like it before. This month has been surreal, it's probably partly my game that has changed slowly over time and I haven't noticed until now that I look on the graph. For some reason my stack more often goes in in the situations now than what I'm used to, I'm not sure as to why, but I'm going to review my PT a bit later and see what the hell is going on.

My wins and loses comes in consecutive rushes, I'm pretty sure it hasn't been tilt, though yesterday I 3 barrelled bluffed away 2 stacks with air which was suboptimal.

I have had a LOT of AK all in preflop hands, seems that each time I'm up against KK or QQ and I always lose, encountered KK,QQ yesterday too and lost both for -$800.

Yesterday I 3 bet light from the blinds a couple of times and had to follow up with a $100 CB's on flop, I ran into big hands both times and it cost me a lot. I'm defintaly on the borderline with 3 betting light and it seems my bets are losing respects from some of the regulars, a guy even called me down with QTo on button after calling a big 3 bet preflop and then called me down with 2nd pair, I had 67s and missed completely.

My All IN luck has been bad to the extreme this month and I'm running about $3000 worse than EV over a total 150 all in hands.

I talked to PokerEV about their stats for game analysis for Ongame and they do have an Ongame bug which shows incorrect stats for the main view, topic here:
http://pokerevsoftware.com/forum/index.php?topic=214.0
They still said that All in luck should be reliable and it looks consistent to me so I'll continue to trust it.

Kenny I normally play 4 tables but add 1 or 2 extra if the game plays slowly or when it is friday and saturday night at Ongame cause I have a bigger edge.

Heading for my first minus month in my poker carreer, thankfully rake and bonus will even it out, feels like wasted time though.
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Postby Cooper » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:24 am

Anyone knows a handconverter that accepts my Pokertracker-Ongame hands ?

As it seems that people actually read my hand histories I will make the effort of converting some of my outrageous plays from last night (though I have to warn the faint hearted from reading them). I will try to motivate my play and see how hollow it will sound in the aftermaths of it all lol.
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Postby RedBarracuda » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:05 am

is great

If there's no support for your type of hand histories at WT, then just post it and Vince (WT main guy I guess) will just add the support and notify you about it. He can also (with some little help from you) create a support for the postings of whole sessions which is also pretty cool.

Either way, check it out, you might like it as do I...
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Boringlyl standard but costly...

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($352.40)
CO ($627.65)
Hero ($429.25)
BB ($152.90)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB [Qd][Ah]
1 fold, UTG bets $14, 1 fold, Hero bets $51, BB calls $49, UTG folds

Flop: [4d][Ac][Kd] ($120, 2 players)
Hero bets $100, BB goes all-in $99.90 and is all-in.


Turn: [Qc] ($319.9, 2 players)

River: [2s] ($319.9, 2 players)

Final Pot: $319.90
BB shows: [Kc][Ks]
Hero shows: [Qd][Ah]

BB lost -$152.90
UTG lost -$14.00
Hero lost -$153.00



Failed 3 bet, i had to follow up.
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at

Stacks:
CO ($365.00)
Hero ($388.00)
BB ($364.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 4 players) Hero is SB [7c][8c]
1 fold, CO bets $15, Hero bets $47, BB calls $45, CO calls $34.

Flop: [Ks][Ac][Kh] ($147, 3 players)
Hero bets $100, 1 fold, CO calls $100.

Turn: [4d] ($347, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $90, Hero folds

Final Pot: $437
Hero shows: [7c][8c]

CO wins $435 ( won $196 )
BB lost -$49.00
Hero lost -$149.00


I guessed as much
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at

Stacks:
CO ($89.85)
SB ($619.25)
Hero ($394.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 4 players) Hero is BB [Ks][Qs]
1 fold, CO bets $10, SB calls $8, Hero calls $6.

Flop: [Qh][9c][3c] ($30, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: [Kc] ($30, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, CO bets $79.85 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls $54.85.

River: [2s] ($189.7, 2 players)

Final Pot: $189.70
CO shows: [Jd][Th]
Hero shows: [Ks][Qs]

CO wins $187.7 ( won $97.85 )
SB lost -$10.00
Hero lost -$89.85

This guy was really aggro (28/25/x) I was sure he would have RR button pf with a good A. River is kind of horrible now that I look at it.
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at

Stacks:
CO ($943.90)
SB ($269.30)
BB ($400.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 4 players) Hero is [5s][6s]
1 fold, Hero bets $15, CO calls $15, 2 folds

Flop: [Jc][Ad][Qc] ($36, 1 players)
Hero bets $31, CO calls $31.

Turn: [Ah] ($98, 1 players)
Hero bets $80, CO calls $80.

River: [Qh] ($258, 1 players)
Hero bets $200, CO calls $200.

Final Pot: $658
CO shows: [Ac][Qs]
Hero shows: [5s][6s]

CO wins $655 ( won $329 )
Hero lost -$326.00


I played this hand good, probably because Im used to look for monsters these days
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($168.50)
CO ($742.10)
SB ($471.75)
BB ($406.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is [Jd][Ah]
Hero bets $16, 3 folds, BB calls $12.

Flop: [Qh][4s][Ad] ($34, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $31, BB calls $31.

Turn: [2s] ($96, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: [Js] ($96, 2 players)
BB bets $73, Hero calls $73.

Final Pot: $242
BB shows: [4c][4h]
Hero shows: [Jd][Ah]

BB wins $239 ( won $119 )
Hero lost -$120.00


What do people do this with ?
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at

Stacks:
Hero ($418.50)
BB ($351.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 3 players) Hero is SB [Qd][Ah]
1 fold, Hero bets $22, BB calls $20.

Flop: [3s][Jc][5h] ($48, 2 players)
Hero bets $41, BB calls $41.

Turn: [5s] ($130, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $45, Hero folds

Final Pot: $175
Hero shows: [Qd][Ah]

BB wins $173 ( won $63 )
Hero lost -$65.00


Easy fold against shortie ? Maybe i was wrong.
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at

Stacks:
Hero ($388.00)
SB ($1.00)
BB ($242.65)

Pre-flop: ($6, 4 players) Hero is CO [Jc][Ad]
2 folds, Hero bets $16, 1 fold, BB calls $12.

Flop: [Qd][Ac][Td] ($34, 1 players)
BB bets $20, Hero bets $44, BB bets $206.65 and is all-in, Hero folds

Final Pot: $304.65
Hero shows: [Jc][Ad]

BB wins $301.65 ( won $59 )
Hero lost -$60.00


This happens me a lot lately
$4/$ No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($400.00)
Hero ($396.00)
SB ($552.40)

Pre-flop: ($4, 5 players) Hero is CO [Ac][Kh]
1 fold, Michiman1982 calls $4, UTG calls $4, Hero bets $22, 1 fold, Michiman1982 bets $60, UTG folds, Hero bets $374 and is all-in, Michiman1982 goes all-in $236.50 and is all-in.


Flop: [5d][8c][4h] ($704.5, 2 players)

Turn: [3d] ($704.5, 2 players)

River: [6d] ($704.5, 2 players)

Final Pot: $704.50
Hero shows: [Ac][Kh]
Michiman1982 shows: [Ks][Kd]

Hero lost -$396.00
Michiman1982 lost -$300.50
UTG lost -$4.00


just not folding
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at

Stacks:
Hero ($517.00)
SB ($613.35)
BB ($538.90)

Pre-flop: ($6, 4 players) Hero is CO [8s][As]
DinAtm bets $16, Hero calls $16, SB calls $14, BB calls $12.

Flop: [2d][Ts][5s] ($64, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, DinAtm bets $40, Hero calls $40, SB folds, BB folds

Turn: [4h] ($144, 2 players)
DinAtm checks, Hero bets $100, DinAtm calls $100.

River: [6c] ($344, 2 players)
DinAtm checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $344
Hero shows: [8s][As]
DinAtm shows: [9d][9s]

DinAtm wins $342 ( won $186 )
Hero lost -$156.00
SB lost -$16.00
BB lost -$16.00
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Postby kennyg » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:37 am

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Postby Cooper » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:05 pm

I think I had to overbet pot on flop here, I was commited either way, I dunno...

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($404.00)
CO ($415.60)
Hero ($553.00)
BB ($324.45)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB [Kd][Ks]
kaalinassu bets $15, 1 fold, CO calls $15, Hero bets $65, 1 fold, kaalinassu calls $52, CO calls $52.

Flop: [4s][5c][Td] ($205, 3 players)
Hero bets $380, kaalinassu goes all-in $308.50 and is all-in, 1 fold

Turn: [6h] ($893.5, 2 players)

River: [Jd] ($893.5, 2 players)

Final Pot: $893.50
Hero shows: [Kd][Ks]
kaalinassu shows: [4h][4c]

CO lost -$67.00
Hero lost -$447.00
kaalinassu lost -$375.50


For the first time since I dont know how long ago I actually have AA vs AK, wow...

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($171.40)
Hero ($392.00)
SB ($103.00)
BB ($441.25)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is CO [Ad][Ac]
analbumcov3r bets $16, 1 fold, Hero bets $52, 2 folds, analbumcov3r bets $150, Hero calls $114.

Flop: [7s][6h][4d] ($338, 2 players)
analbumcov3r bets $233, Hero goes all-in $226 and is all-in.


Turn: [8s] ($797, 2 players)

River: [Th] ($797, 2 players)

Final Pot: $797
analbumcov3r shows: [As][Kh]
Hero shows: [Ad][Ac]

analbumcov3r lost -$399.00
Hero lost -$392.00


Hand of the week :)

$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($1.00)
Hero ($685.65)
SB ($531.30)
BB ($875.15)

Pre-flop: ($9, 5 players) Hero is CO [Kd][9c]
ffasj123 calls $6, 1 fold, Hero bets $27, SB calls $24, 1 fold, ffasj123 folds

Flop: [Js][Qs][Td] ($66, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $45, SB calls $45.

Turn: [8h] ($156, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $140, SB calls $140.

River: [5d] ($436, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $473.65 and is all-in, SB goes all-in $319.30 and is all-in.


Final Pot: $1,228.95
Hero shows: [Kd][9c]
SB shows: [Qh][Qc]

Hero wins $1 ( lost -$684.65 )
Hero lost -$684.65
SB lost -$531.30
ffasj123 lost -$6.00


U had what ?!?!

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($721.75)
CO ($385.85)
Hero ($452.10)
BB ($96.25)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB [Qs][Ah]
The_Worm86 bets $16, 1 fold, CO calls $16, Hero bets $50, 1 fold, The_Worm86 folds, CO calls $36.

Flop: [8c][Ac][6c] ($124, 2 players)
Hero bets $100, CO calls $100.

Turn: [4h] ($324, 2 players)
Hero bets $255, CO goes all-in $233.85 and is all-in.


River: [Ad] ($812.85, 2 players)

Final Pot: $812.85
CO shows: [8s][Js]
Hero shows: [Qs][Ah]

Hero wins $809.85 ( won $402.85 )
The_Worm86 lost -$16.00
CO lost -$385.85

I have sooo many of these nowadays

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($780.20)
CO ($60.60)
Hero ($377.00)
BB ($421.60)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB [Ks][As]
1 fold, UTG bets $8, CO calls $8, Hero bets $42, 1 fold, UTG bets $125, CO goes all-in $52.60 and is all-in, Hero bets $333 and is all-in, UTG calls $244.

Flop: [9h][8c][Qd] ($818.6, 3 players)

Turn: [5s] ($818.6, 3 players)

River: [5c] ($818.6, 3 players)

Final Pot: $818.60
UTG shows: [Kc][Kh]
CO shows: [9c][8h]
Hero shows: [Ks][As]

UTG wins $815.6 ( won $438.6 )
CO lost -$60.60
Hero lost -$377.00


And of course one of these again

$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at

Stacks:
CO ($1.00)
Hero ($861.55)
BB ($470.45)

Pre-flop: ($9, 4 players) Hero is SB [Ks][Kh]
ffasj123 bets $12, 1 fold, Hero bets $52, 1 fold, ffasj123 bets $150, Hero bets $806.55 and is all-in, ffasj123 goes all-in $190.25 and is all-in.


Flop: [6h][6s][9c] ($1219.8, 2 players)

Turn: [8s] ($1219.8, 2 players)

River: [3s] ($1219.8, 2 players)

Final Pot: $1,219.80
Hero shows: [Ks][Kh]
ffasj123 shows: [As][Ac]

Hero lost -$861.55
ffasj123 lost -$352.25


I have 70 AKs played this month for a minus -1 PTBB / hand in average... wtf..
Their all ins PF:
lost to KK
lost to QQ
won against KQo (wow they held)
won against A8o
lost to KK

-1700$ for the month on ongame, end this month now !
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Postby Cooper » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:09 pm

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One day I will make this back.... One day....
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Postby excession » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:45 pm

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Postby Cooper » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:54 am

I decided to put an end to October in the worst possible way so I blew away 1500$ in 2 hour session.

It was ridiculous really. I didn't hit a single flushdraw or straightdraw in 1000 hands (I did hit a straight on flop twice but didnt get a single bet called when I did). I hit a few sets but again, no value (see hand below).

One bad play where i RR KK UTG to $16, button called, flop A84 rainbow, I CB he call, turn blank check/check, river blank I check, he bets all in 200 into 220 pot, wtf. I get suspicious and call, he has a well played A8 (i play it the same on dry flop like that).

I got it all in once with 2 others with AA on a flop with 55% equity ($1000 pot) which I of course got outdrawn on.

After that I didn't make any hands, the normal story, I RR on button with some mediocre AT hand, get a caller OOP, miss the flop,I CB's get insta minraised, fold. Over and over again for another few 100$ of bucks.

That's all it takes, 2 hours of that and you WILL be down 1500$ no question...

Typical session hand:
Does everybody have superaccounts these days ? How can you not CB a flop like that in a RR pot.

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
Hero ($385.00)
CO ($407.00)
SB ($378.60)
BB ($410.55)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is UTG [4s][4d]
1 fold, Hero bets $14, CO bets $42, 2 folds, Hero calls $28.

Flop: [Jd][4c][2h] ($90, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: [8h] ($90, 2 players)
Hero bets $80, 1 fold

Final Pot: $170
Hero shows: [4s][4d]

Hero wins $167 ( won $45 )
CO lost -$42.00

Managed to end October for a complelete -$1800 in Poker losses. Rakeback and bonus will take it back to about +-0 for a completely breakeven month of about 30K hands.

I topped at +2000 after a week into October which means I am now on a 9 buyin downswing. (I have never swong more than 12 buyins before)

I'm off for some chanting and sacrificing of goats (if I find any).

October: -$1800
Ongame: 25K hands of 2/4 (-3200)
Cake: 5K hands of 2/4 (+1400)
Total BR: $18500
(+pending rakeback of about $1800 for october + bonuses)
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:07 am

I'll tell you the same thing I told BK when he moved up to $400NL. Expect these bigger swing than you are used to...on a regular basis.

When you move up, you feel the need to try to "outplay" people much more. You start reraising hands like 56s from the blinds. This may or may not be a good play but it certainly leads to exponentially higher variance.

When you move up it feels like everyone is trying to run you over. Some of that it is true but alot of it is in your mind.

There are quite a few consistant regular winners playing 5/10 NL who are total nits with stats like 16 / 12.
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Postby AlexMR » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:28 pm

[17:16] alitomr: http://micropenis.ws/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723
[17:19] mekosking: wow
[17:19] mekosking: i give that poof a week tops
[17:19] mekosking: before he snuffs it
[17:19] mekosking: I THINK THAT MAY BE NV
[17:20] mekosking: IN DISGUISE
[17:20] alitomr: LOLZ
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Postby RedBarracuda » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:47 pm

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(6:35:48 PM) giantgrwth: I once beat up an attempted murderer, 25% true story
(6:35:59 PM) hard2tel45s: boxing?
(6:36:06 PM) giantgrwth: Yea
(6:36:14 PM) hard2tel45s: sweet
(6:36:30 PM) giantgrwth: He was my best friend too, lol
(6:36:48 PM) hard2tel45s: well u were in the crazy bin bro
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Postby Cooper » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:54 pm

At least a winning session: +700 playing some Ongame and Cake. Found a loose 5/10 table at Cake (actually there were 2 playing at VPIP 40% :shock: ) and I always run good taking shots so I figured I might as well dedicate a buyin.

First 3 orbits I get dealt garbage.

I raise A8o in MP to $35, BB who is a bit loose and splashing round a bit calls.

Flop:
A99, he checks to me, I check behind
Turn blank
He leads $60 I call
River blank.
He leads $180 I fold.

Played a bit weak but I think my turn call signals an A. he would have to be really bad for me to be ahead of him and I give him some more respect than that.

Next orbit I bust a $400 stack when hitting the nutflush on river. Thanks and goodbye, I sit out up +300.

Played some Cake 600 and I got lucky on river against Sem, he had AJ. I was pretty close to fire a 2nd bullet here because of the flushdraw, but I guessed he was to good to be drawing this passively with a flop call OOP, so A was more likely...

Hand #1305012055000940: Leeds (6-max) 12055
Seat 1: IceStorm (583.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Agarp (591.00 in chips)
Seat 4: Semillon (1118.05 in chips)
Seat 9: Kerplunk! (833.65 in chips)
Seat 10: dougal813 (530.95 in chips)
Agarp: posts small blind $3
Semillon: posts big blind $6
Dealt to IceStorm [ Jc Kd ]
Kerplunk!: folds
dougal813: calls
IceStorm: raises to $27
Agarp: folds
Semillon: calls
dougal813: calls
*** FLOP *** [ 3c, 4c, Ah ]
Semillon: checks
dougal813: checks
IceStorm: bets $70
Semillon: calls
dougal813: folds
*** TURN *** [ Qs ]
Semillon: checks
IceStorm: checks
*** RIVER *** [ Th ]
Semillon: bets $100
IceStorm: is all in
Semillon: folds
IceStorm: returns uncalled bet $386.90
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IceStorm: mucks
IceStorm wins $422


Kind of butchered river on this one, was distracted by a computer problem at same time, stupid.. River sucks so guess I should have checked but I couldnt put him square on T either. I guess he had JT and sucked out the river (or even a slowplayed 9T) .

Hand #1305012055000889: Leeds (6-max) 12055
Seat 1: IceStorm (600.00 in chips)
Seat 3: bullseye80 (165.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Semillon (606.30 in chips)
Seat 6: LaThnSwTtRs (1115.14 in chips)
Seat 10: dougal813 (765.95 in chips)
dougal813: posts small blind $3
IceStorm: posts big blind $6
Dealt to IceStorm [ 6s 9h ]
bullseye80: calls
Semillon: folds
LaThnSwTtRs: folds
dougal813: calls
IceStorm: checks
*** FLOP *** [ Js, 8d, 7c ]
dougal813: bets $18
IceStorm: calls
bullseye80: folds
*** TURN *** [ 5d ]
dougal813: bets $27
IceStorm: raises to $90
dougal813: calls
*** RIVER *** [ 9c ]
dougal813: checks
IceStorm: bets $222
dougal813: is all in
IceStorm: folds
IceStorm: mucks
dougal813: returns uncalled bet $429.95
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dougal813: mucks
dougal813 wins $676
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