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Overbet shove great flop? NL200 6max

Postby Monkey » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:46 pm

From memory because I didn't have PT running.

$200 NL at Full Tilt, full 6-max table, $200 stacks.

I open raise [Td] [8d] to $7 in the CO, only the BB calls. No notes on him, but I recognise the name, so I assume he's at least semi-regular.

Flop is [Th] [9d] [6d]

He checks, I bet $12 into $15, he raises to $32. It's $20 to me with another $160 behind. How to get the rest in? A shove is about 2 x pot.
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Postby MBuckler » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:53 pm

is TP with a gutshot and a Thigh FD really THAT great? i call and see what happens on the turn...
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Postby Ojingo » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:01 pm

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Postby ToastedMoses » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:06 pm

"I saw this wino eating grapes, its like dude.... you have to wait." - Mitch Hedberg
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Postby Xaston » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:27 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:34 pm

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Postby Monkey » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:12 pm

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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:06 pm

I don't like the shove because you're only 54.6% to an overpair, I really prefer the bet/call shove or whatever.

Edit: and he didn't have the nuts by a mile, [7d][6d] would be the nuts because it's the hardest hand to beat (4 of the flush cards are gone - your 2, and you make the straight flush with 2 of em). Against [8s][7s] you're only a 42.7% dog!! Hell, him having [7d]8x would be worse for you (40.9% dog).
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Postby Zuccala » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:43 pm

2008 Goals:

1. Make $40K by year end.
2. Play at least 100hrs a month.
3. Read 5-10 new Poker Books w/ notes.
4. Become regular at $2/$4 FR
5. Try some $5/$10 FR
6. Work on Game non-stop.
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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:16 pm

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Postby Monkey » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:24 am

Nice analysis BK. I don't agree 100% - how often do people 4-bet bluff flops? The making his range play worse part is spot on I think and well explained.

About your nuts: [6d] is on the board! He's got the best possible hand (not equity, agreed) now, but no way to improve. Wouldn't look so good in Omaha.

BN - that's the Becklin–Neugebauer object.
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