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NL50 6max - Bad spot to bluff or was it a decent attempt?

Postby seatown » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:44 pm

First off wanted to mention didn't convert this hand to try and validate why i tried in the first place. My table image was solid tag 22 / 18 / 5 and this guy was a complete moron he's like 50 / 0 / 1 over 70 hands. He was attempting bluffs that were often caught, calling pot size bets on turn w/ gssd's and some other dumb stuff. (and now i'm guess you're gonna be tellin me why it was a bad spot)


FullTiltPoker Game #4201596832: Table Clifton (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:58:01 ET - 2007/11/17
Seat 1: ms tits mcgee ($70.80)
Seat 2: DoomsdayDonkey ($18.55)
Seat 3: seatown1two ($52.20)
Seat 4: NoPara ($20.20)
Seat 5: bleinheim ($40.95)
Seat 6: tgoingplaces ($10.45)
DoomsdayDonkey posts the small blind of $0.25
seatown1two has 5 seconds left to act
seatown1two posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to seatown1two [Qs Ac]
NoPara folds
bleinheim calls $0.50
tgoingplaces calls $0.50
ms tits mcgee calls $0.50
DoomsdayDonkey calls $0.25
seatown1two: screw this
seatown1two has 15 seconds left to act
seatown1two raises to $5.50
DoomsdayDonkey: lol
bleinheim calls $5
ms tits mcgee: he obviously has kk
tgoingplaces folds
ms tits mcgee: omfg bleinnnn
ms tits mcgee folds
DoomsdayDonkey folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 2d 2s]
seatown1two has 15 seconds left to act
seatown1two bets $12.50
bleinheim has 15 seconds left to act
bleinheim calls $12.50
*** TURN *** [3h 2d 2s] [9h]
ms tits mcgee: wtfffff
DoomsdayDonkey: bein will donk on him
seatown1two bets $34.20, and is all in
bleinheim calls $22.95, and is all in
seatown1two shows [Qs Ac]
bleinheim shows [Tc Ts]
Uncalled bet of $11.25 returned to seatown1two
*** RIVER *** [3h 2d 2s 9h] [8d]
seatown1two shows a pair of Twos
bleinheim shows two pair, Tens and Twos
bleinheim wins the pot ($80.40) with two pair, Tens and Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $83.40 | Rake $3
Board: [3h 2d 2s 9h 8d]
Seat 1: ms tits mcgee (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: DoomsdayDonkey (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: seatown1two (big blind) showed [Qs Ac] and lost with a pair of Twos
Seat 4: NoPara didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: bleinheim showed [Tc Ts] and won ($80.40) with two pair, Tens and Twos
Seat 6: tgoingplaces folded before the Flop


you can see comments made from others throughout the hand so it was obvious how i'd been playing. After he smooth called it (thought he was fishing like always) i told myself i'm shoving the turn no matter what. I'm definately not checking (which might have been the right play?) and figured any bet i made i'd have to shove the riv (believe my stack on the turn was a few $$ under pot) regardless.


Is this the type of move that will work against some1 who's not a complete idiot or should I never ever attempt this again?
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Postby k3nt » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:25 am

11x preflop raise? Yikes.

None of your bets look like they want to be called, so I'd be suspicious of them too.

I don't think there's ever a reason to play like this at $50 NL against calling stations. Just do it with AA/KK. With AQ, raise to a normal size preflop, CB it on most flops against most opponents, shut down with zip if your flop bet is called, and value bet the hell out of any top pair type hands you catch. Poker is really really simple, especially at $50 NL.
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Postby ChaseThis » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:31 am

Ya, what he said.

I sometimes find myself starting to 3bet light too much, make plays, etc, and have to reel it back in. There's just not much fold equity at our limits. Certainly not against someone you've already pegged as a donk. ;) I keep telling myself as dull as it seems, I'm better off waiting for them to hand me their stack. If not them, the next loon will.
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Postby seatown » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:44 am

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Postby JimmyJet » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:09 am

I just saw the title. NL $50, and bad spot to bluff?

The answer, without reading the post, is no. :P
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Postby ChaseThis » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:14 am

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Postby Rhound50 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:20 am

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Postby Proplayer44 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:00 pm

If you know a bad player is capable or willing to call you down with weak/bad drawing hands I would say its best to never bluff him so ya it's a bad spot.
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Postby black_knight6 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:08 pm

To answer your question, these villains are basically UNBLUFFABLE...so save your chips.

OTOH it means you can VB VERY VERY thin
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Postby JimmyJet » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:45 pm

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Postby Danhdan » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:45 pm

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