As a preface to this hand, this is a turbo tourney and we're about middle of the pack.

I had played two hands in recent history - both were 3xBB open raises, and both were uncalled so I just took the blinds.

In this hand, not only had antes started, but by the time the action got to me - there were 2 limpers.

I wake up with aces on the button. I make a raise to 800 (4xBB).

Here's the fun part: I get flat called by the SB (4k), BB (6k), and both limpers (10k and 2.8k). I was the shortest stack to start 2.3k.

In retrospect, at the point of my action, there's 225 in antes, 300 from blinds and 400 from limps. Pushing with my short stack is vastly superior here. That said, in my bad position, I've now got a situation...

The flop is . SB checks and BB leads for the minimum (200). The first limper flat calls and the second now min-raises - so it is 400 to me.

With all of the money in the pot, I doubt there's much chance of folding anyone here with good values. But just how many of them have "good values" here?

In the end - I pushed and was called by everyone. And, believe it or not - I ended up walking away with a large stack... go figure.

Still - the preflop raise is not enough right? And in a "normal" situation - pushing in that position can't be right can it?

Below is the hand history:

PokerStars Game #13473049651: Tournament #65465894, 10FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/11/25 - 23:11:01 (ET)
Table '65465894 305' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Starstealer (2375 in chips)
Seat 2: Yappa101 (3995 in chips)
Seat 3: otis1969 (6325 in chips)
Seat 4: PaPaDLN (10035 in chips)
Seat 5: asgbawler (910 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: fudwhity (800 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: jeaglephant (6535 in chips)
Seat 8: victorbastos (2845 in chips)
Seat 9: baseball1369 (11945 in chips)
Starstealer: posts the ante 25
Yappa101: posts the ante 25
otis1969: posts the ante 25
PaPaDLN: posts the ante 25
asgbawler: posts the ante 25
fudwhity: posts the ante 25
jeaglephant: posts the ante 25
victorbastos: posts the ante 25
baseball1369: posts the ante 25
Yappa101: posts small blind 100
otis1969: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Starstealer [Ac Ad]
PaPaDLN: calls 200
asgbawler: folds
fudwhity: folds
jeaglephant: folds
victorbastos: calls 200
baseball1369: folds
Starstealer: raises 600 to 800
Yappa101: calls 700
otis1969: calls 600
PaPaDLN: calls 600
victorbastos: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [8s Qd Kh]
Yappa101: checks
otis1969: bets 200
PaPaDLN: calls 200
victorbastos: raises 200 to 400
Starstealer: raises 1150 to 1550 and is all-in
Yappa101: folds
otis1969: calls 1350
PaPaDLN: calls 1350
victorbastos: calls 1150
*** TURN *** [8s Qd Kh]
otis1969: checks
PaPaDLN: bets 800
victorbastos: calls 470 and is all-in
otis1969: calls 800
*** RIVER *** [8s Qd Kh 6s]
otis1969: checks
PaPaDLN: bets 1000
otis1969: calls 1000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PaPaDLN: shows [Kc Jc] (a pair of Kings)
otis1969: mucks hand
PaPaDLN collected 2660 from side pot-2
victorbastos: mucks hand
PaPaDLN collected 1410 from side pot-1
Starstealer: shows [Ac Ad] (a pair of Aces)
Starstealer collected 10425 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14495 Main pot 10425. Side pot-1 1410. Side pot-2 2660. | Rake 0
Board [8s Qd Kh 6s 4c]
Seat 1: Starstealer (button) showed [Ac Ad] and won (10425) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Yappa101 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: otis1969 (big blind) mucked [Ah Qc]
Seat 4: PaPaDLN showed [Kc Jc] and won (4070) with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: asgbawler folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: fudwhity folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jeaglephant folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: victorbastos mucked [7h Kd]
Seat 9: baseball1369 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

raise harder pre, easy shove on the flop

i like how u played it.

In these types of tourneys people either dont know or dont care that only raising to 800 = strength.

Against ok-good players this is a standard push.

of course if you've seen multiway allins preflop with KJ, A2 etc then you should probably push.