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Weird turn decision with TT (5/10 SH)

Postby shobute » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:20 pm

6-handed, 1k effective stacks.
I haven't been at the table for long, and nothing noteworthy so far.


UTG, a bad player, open minraises.
I'm next and raise to $80 with TT.
BB, a 24/18 that I have no history with, cold calls.
UTG folds.

Flop Q68 rainbow, pot ~$180.
BB checks, I check.

Turn 2 suited, pot ~$180.
BB checks, I bet $150, BB check-raises to $420, I go all-in.
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Postby gsdavid » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:46 pm

Ugh.. i think i raise this PF to 10BB-12BB but its matter of personal preference. Now I must admit I'm kinda lost w the line that villain took. I would guess that he either has set(and has decided to slow play it since he figured you dont have anything..thus i assume his CC preflop was a small PP for setmine. Then again his CR could be a nice powermove(bluff/semibluff) since he probably puts you on a smaller PP and thus thinks that you would fold it to a CR. So its mostly WA/WB scenario(i could be wrong). But i think that by pushing here you only fold out hands that you beat and get called by those that have you beat, especially if you have no history behind.
So i really think you are either up against total air or a very strong hand.
So in conclusion, i kinda really hate the push, u might get JJ to fold. Again, my experience in RR pots is still very very limited, but from the feedback that i got to my own posts, i think that pushing here is bad.
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Postby poker2006 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:43 pm

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Postby TableTiger1 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:55 pm

[21:24] Mbuckler: i think i need to go rape some bunnies

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Postby kennyg » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:32 pm

I'm think you just need to bet the flop. You put yourself in a bad situation you didn't need to be in. If your hand were a little stronger, like a KQ, then I could see more value in the check on the flop.

As played the turn is meh, seems like a you need a very good read to make this play.
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Postby Triple B » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:03 am

Villain: Why?
Villain: How?
Me: I had a feeling
Villian: Sit in you cretin
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Postby black_knight6 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:17 am

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Postby Cooper » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:19 am

I usually CB a lot, but against a good tricky player I think a flop check is ok on this relatively drawless board. It doesn't look like it hit your range much so he might well get tricky with a flop checkraise here (I would sometimes). Turn bet is marginal (but I would probably bet it too), now I think you have to fold to his reraise, I dont like the shove at all.
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