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NL200 - JTo in CO... is this std ?

Postby RedBarracuda » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:30 am

This is not a brag or beat post... I am actually interested if this is standard from pre flop to river... thanks..

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Profiles and Stacks:
UTG ($200.00) 29.3/24.3/4.7 (140)
UTG+1 ($181.55) 17.4/11.1/2.5 (597)
Hero ($251.25) 25.5/21.6/4.0 (51)
BTN ($371.27) 46.2/13.5/2.0 (52)
SB ($388.75) 30.0/3.8/1.7 (80)
BB ($189.65) 48.4/6.0/0.9 (215)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is CO [Th][Jd]
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, BTN calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: [9d][8c][3c] ($17, 2 players)
Hero bets $13, BTN calls $13

Turn: [7d] ($43, 2 players)
Hero bets $37, BTN calls $37

River: [8h] ($117, 2 players)
Hero bets $60, BTN ....
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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:11 am

ch-call the river because draws missed...
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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:00 am

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Postby Triple B » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:35 am

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Villain: How?
Me: I had a feeling
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Postby TableTiger1 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:12 pm

What stoney said, except if he will call with overpairs or A9 here maybe an overbet of like 130 looks like a missed draw yourself.
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Postby MTPaid » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:22 pm

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Postby Triple B » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:47 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:37 pm

Is a 9 generally going to call more than 1/2 pot though?
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Postby TableTiger1 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:24 pm

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Postby gsdavid » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:03 am

I agree that folding here would be weak. Only FH that villain should have is 87 and I think he even raises that on turn. However, I kinda don't agree w large river bet that ice suggested.
I think river is heavily player dependent. Do you have any sort of read what hand strength does the villain need to call turn? It is possible that he folds a 9x to a turn bet unless its T9 and A9? If so, flush draw is much more likely, so if he likes to bet/bluff river, check it to him, especially if he folds to river a lot(means he is not calling river there w naked 9)

If he has a 8x he is betting river 100% of time so you can CRAI him while he might just flat call the river bet.
I think Ice is thinking of a nice VB if villain is
a) table sherif, that is likes to make hero calls and thinks that big bet ---> bluff
b) is a thinking player(somewhat, his stats are fishy) and is thinking to myself..There is no way that this guy bets 2 streets OOP w 8x so he will make a crying call with 9x, since he figures you either have set or missed draw and rarely JT. I guess this last b part depends on your image. He could put you on overpair so his bare 9x beats like nothing besides FD/
Is it possible that he is a fishy type of player that bets river like 50% of time, like 20$ in 100$ pot or such that you can CR to 60 and get some value? Some players will bet river very thin and will be very tight in their calling range when facing river
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Postby RedBarracuda » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:18 am

I didn't think he will bet a busted draw if I check to him so I bet instead. I didn't feel he will call a large bet so I went for a safer 1/2PSB that he might call... Had he raised, I would snap call.

He just called and mucked.

On overbet idea... I am unsure if this would work since he will stop and think about it, although it MIGHT work more often then I think because nowdays, from what I see, there are a lot of players that are just trying to force you out of the hand with the river overbet after they missed their draw.
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