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$100NL FR, NFD + overcard on flop - how was my play?

Postby fisherman » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:35 pm

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Ad] [Jd]
VILLAIN 1 calls $1.00
HERO raises to $4.00
V2 calls $4.00
V3 calls $4.00
V1 calls $3.00
*** FLOP *** [8c] [3d] [Qd]
V1 checks
HERO checks
V2 bets $17.50
V3 folds
V1 calls $17.50
HERO calls $17.50
*** TURN *** [8c] [3d] [Qd] [Ah]
V1 checks
HERO checks
V2 checks
*** RIVER *** [8c] [3d] [Qd] [Ah] [8d]
V1 checks
HERO bets $35.00
V2 calls $35.00
V1 folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO shows [Ad] [Jd]
V2 mucks [6d] [7d]
Board: [8c] [3d] [Qd] [Ah] [8d]
Ibanezrg collects $137.00

V1 is 29/3/1.67 after 130 hands, V2 is 17/13.5/3.5 after 52 hands. I just want to know how you think I played this. As it turned out the villan had 6,7d but due to his tightness I could never have put him on this hand, I was thinking more like AQ. Do you think that:
1) I should have shoved or at least raised big on flop
2) Given that I didn't shove, I should have bet the turn?
3) Was my bet on the river too small?
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Postby Triple B » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:11 pm

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Villain: How?
Me: I had a feeling
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Postby MTPaid » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:57 am

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Postby fisherman » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:23 pm

I think the ironic thing is that if I had raised and we somehow got to to the river without going all in he would not have put me on the flush and would have shoved. As it is I just called, checked the turn and only came out betting when I hit my flush which looked very suspicious. If I had raised he could have put me on AQ I guess but I didn't...

Had a similar hand today btw.
I was in BB, folded round to SB who was 17/10/3. He raised to $3, I reraised to $9 with [Ad] [Qd] and he called. Flop came [9d] [As] [Jd] so I bet out $12.50 into an $18 pot, he reraised to $30 so I shoved for $65 more and he folded. Do you think this was acceptable? Should I maybe have raised instead of shoved, or even just flat called?

I figured he could have had nothing and was trying to represent something when the A hit but picked a bad time, but more likely was that he had a weaker A. Thoughts?
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Postby Triple B » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:33 pm

Fisherman, on that AQs hand, I think you played it very well. Most of the time when you are raised on the flop in a reraised pot villain will not fold. It also will send a message to him that he should not bluff raise you in the future.
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Postby MTPaid » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:45 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:54 pm

I , for one, hate how you played it. What were you going to do if the river was the [Tc]?

All you did was call a 4BB raise out of position with AJs which is marginal.
Then you chased a flush and got lucky and hit it at the same time another guy also hit it which is pretty rare. You also didnt get full value out of a rare flush over flush spot.

I would lead flop.....or if I didnt
I might check raise flop...or if I didnt
I would lead turn....or if I didnt
I would bet the river harder.
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Postby Devbert » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:19 pm

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