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Postby Twelver » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:03 pm

I am thinking that villan 1 leading into 2 ther players must be a big hand, but I don't think I can much the flop ever, the turn is where it gets a little more interesting...

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BB ($699)
UTG ($155.80)
MP ($400.40)
CO ($158)
Hero ($1096)
SB ($551.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [Js], [Ac].
UTG calls $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $18, 1 fold, BB calls $14, UTG calls $14.

Flop: ($56) [8c], [Jc], [3c] (3 players)
BB bets $40, UTG calls $40, Hero calls $40.

Turn: ($176) [3d] (3 players)
BB bets $99, UTG calls $97.80 (All-In), Hero ??
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Postby Zuccala » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:28 pm

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2. Play at least 100hrs a month.
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Postby k3nt » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:33 pm

I can't give you more than 5 outs here on average ... and if you hit and you're ahead you're going to get very little more, while if you hit and you're still behind you'll probably pay him off. Fold it.
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Postby Zuccala » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:45 pm

There is deffinatley reverse something going on here.
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Postby Triple B » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:23 pm

If you think you are behind and drawing on the flop (as you imply in your post) then this seems like a fold. Baby flushes won't pay you off if you hit, you aren't drawing live against sets anymore, etc.

If you think you are ahead a lot on the flop then raise the flop. Edit: Since we are deep I think calling flop is probably best regardless of what range you give BB.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:11 am

Excuse me for hijacking this thread please but I have a point to make:

If you read my "double stacked flush" hand you saw a discussion about how there are very few pot played for 400BBs where 2 guys get all in for 200BBs each. When it does happen, one of them usually has the nuts.

I think my point is proven by this hand when TripleB says "since we're deep calling the flop is best". I agree with his thinking, but if we arent going to raise this flop because we are afraid he might reraise and we are too deep to want to risk that, how are we going to get all in when we are very deep? Unless we have the nuts?

So anyway, I like the flop call most of the time. I would also call the turn though and think about folding the river depending in his bet size. Theres a good chance that the BB has something like [Kc][Jh], [Tc][9s], [Qc][Qd]...ect. Against his range I think we have odds to call and re-evaluate the river.
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Postby T-Rod » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:31 am

Here's the problem. UTG is coming along for the ride and he's so short you never will fold because of him; however, he does give more odds to call, a bigger pot, etc.

So I just focus on BB, but realize that if you want to "call down" you will talk yourself into calling rivers when you know you are behind because UTG gave you odds to call.

I know where are deep but I'm raising the flop. He lead full pot into you the pfr. That's rarely a set.

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Postby Xaston » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:54 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby Twelver » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:17 pm

Mekos King (10:21:59 PM): one of the first rules of manlaw
Mekos King (10:22:06 PM): is never ever try to suck backup to a bitch
Mekos King (10:22:09 PM): who caught u cheatin
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Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

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