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TPTK vs an all in

Postby iceman5 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:35 pm

$100 NL at Cake

I raise to $3.50 UTG with [As][Js]. Both blinds call.

Pot $11. Flop [Jh][9c][3h]. SB leads $2. BB calls. I raise $16. SB folds. BB now shoves all in. Starting effective stacks were $100.

Would he only call the $2 with a set on this board? Flush draw? Call or fold? Its like $80ish to me.
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Postby MBuckler » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:39 pm

with no read i think its a fold. 93, j9 are both in his range. as are QT, 8T, and XXhh. i dunno that you're ahead often enough to make this call against an unknown. interesting spot though, looking forward to seeing what others think...
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Postby Semillon » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:42 pm

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Postby Rhound50 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:44 pm

He has to know you have a hand after you raise, unless he is a total moron(you didnt post a read on him). Best case he has a huge draw like [Qh] [Th], more likely he has a set of 3's. I do this quite often with an aggressive PFR behind me. This is the perfect spot for the player in the middle to trap a bunch of dead money in the pot with a set. There is a good chance you are going to raise, the $2 bet is often a draw so there is a decent chance bettor calls your raise now there is a bunch of dead money in the pot for him to shove.
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Postby Dumb Snowman » Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:37 pm

I instamuck this
Partake in my bollocks, bloody chav!
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Postby Triple B » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:29 pm

Yeah, this looks like a slowplay gone bad. I would muck this unless I thought villain was a total spew-monkey.
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Re: TPTK vs an all in

Postby stickdude » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:33 pm

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Re: TPTK vs an all in

Postby iceman5 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:43 am

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:08 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:29 am

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Postby k3nt » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:11 am

I agree with your read that he's usually on the FD here. That said, you're not that much ahead of the FD especially if he has [Kh] or [Qh] and you're way behind the made hands he can do this with. I think a call here is close to 0EV overall relative to his range.
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:42 pm

As I said, I called. He had [Qh][9h] so it was a coin flip which I lost. I think a call or fold are probably both OK.
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