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NL200 I C/R 4bet flop am I committed?

Postby seatown » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:59 pm

No real reads on BTN, he's only been around for maybe 5 hands. After pf action & w/ how I decided to play the flop, when he 5bet shoves, I am about 90% sure he's got 33 but I feel like I've already invested too much to lay it down & if he does have 33, I still have some outs. I would have felt much more comfortable getting it in if I 3bet pf but is this flop play spew or is it variance to be up against a set w/ top 2?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: Bet The Pot)

Button ($200)
SB ($196)
Hero ($195.70)
UTG ($65.10)
MP ($196.35)
CO ($106.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [Ah], [Js].
1 fold, MP raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($25) [Jh], [Ad], [3s] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $8, Button raises to $24, Hero raises to $70, MP folds, Button raises to $192, Hero calls $117.70 (All-In).

Turn: ($408.40) [5s] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($408.40) [3d] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $408.40
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:25 pm

I'd 3-bet or fold preflop. AJo is a bit too weak to call oop in a multiway pot.

If you're 90% sure that he has 33 then it's a very easy fold.

I really doubt that you can be 90% sure that he has 33 though. I feel he will show up with AK/AQ/A3 or AJ himself often enough to make calling his flop shove +EV, if only marginally.

If we know that he's a nit or super solid TAG or that he always 3bets AJ+ preflop and never raises A-rag on this flop, then I think folding is OK.
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Postby hard2tel » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:38 pm

You've played with him for 5 hands. most of the time a random is just gonna have A3 or worse here.
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Postby seatown » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:52 pm

So are you guys sayin w/o any real reads I played it fine? Granted, he had no reads on me either so he could easily show up w/ AK, AQ, A3, Ax thinking its good which was one of the only reasons I called. No one is ever folding here with no reads right?
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Postby shamdonk » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:59 pm

sorry your AJ got beat.
Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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