Someone please tell me how. It appears that 2+2 has invaded Cake now that PT kind of works. The tables are littered with 6 tabling 14 / 10 nits.

Certain times of the day you literally cant play unless you want to sit with 5 of these guys on every table.

I assume I need to LAG it up to beat them but they wont put a frigging cent in the pot unless they have you beat.

They wont call a raise. They wont play back at me no matter how many times I raise their blind. Talk about boring. Jeez.

They wont reraise w/o AA / KK.

Im killing the entire Cake non nit universe of players and breaking even / slightly bleeding to these guys. Very frustrating when I keep getting KK , QQ and AKs against them and they reraise me or fold every time. Trust me, Im not ahead when they do it.

OK, enough ranting. This is a serious post. What adjustments should I make for a table of 4 of them and 1 fish.

Again, Im not talking about a 19 / 12 TAG. Im talking 14 / 10 or even 12 / 11.

There is one particular guy named Utter. I just steal his blinds and when he tries his steal raise from OTB or SB I just 3 wack him everytime regardless of my cards in the SB/BB. If he calls or 3-bets I am done, When he raises I will 3-bet with QQ-AA. If he pushes I fold all but AA. If I raise KK and he 3-bets me, I make a small 4-bet. If he pushes I fold,

Basically, I am hyper agressive against him im position. Finally, when he does play back at me I have made so much of him i fold. Then the next hand its back to pounding. Sometimes I do have to goods when he plays back and thats great.

How can you 3 bet someone mercilessly whos playing 13 / 10? Hes going to have a premium hand most of the time. I guess I 3 bet him and dont put in another cent if he calls (unless I hit a big hand of course?).

I'll win $7 every time he folds and lose $22 every time he calls and I dont have a real hand. He has to fold 3 times for every time he calls.

The times he doesnt have a premium hand but still has something like 99 and is looking for a set, I cant win unless I bet the flop, so now I have to put in $50 or so to take it down.

Of the players I have tjhe most hands with, 10 of the top 25 or so are playing 15 / 11 or tighter. I see 4 guys who are like 11 / 4 and 13 / 9 types.

I have no problem with them when theres 1 or 2, but if all 5 guys are like this, whats the point of playing?

Can you imagine what a table of 5 guys playing 15 / 10 down to 11/ 4 looks like? The avg pot is like $4. Someone raises and every one folds. None of them will call a raise and 1/2 the time it just folds around.

There are hardly any pots to play at all and when there are 6-7 of them playing and monopolizing all 5 - 6 tables going at these stakes theres no "get up and change tables". I have to get up and change sites.

Im looking for a way to MAKE them play. I guess Ill have to start raisng every hand or something.

I was in this situation once and just raised and 3-bet every hand for about 9 hands in a row (actually I think I folded once). Everytime they folded I would show my K6o or whatnot. After this, they started raising me, calling me and coming after me, so I shut down and one lap later stacked a guy with my QQ vs his 99 or 88. Thing is, several of them were now steaming and kept playing like that. It was kind of weird that it worked, but it did. I left after about an hour with 5 or 6 stacks. I guess first impressions last.

A HUD is clearly against Cakes rules and I know of one guy whos already had his money confiscated for using it.