You folks are all crazy, Marion is only a good player because he has a great guard feeding him the ball. Also if a team wants a legit chance at winning the nba championship they have to have a dominate center. This is how basketball works. If you get a great center your chances go up. Shaq is either the GOAT or second behind Chamberlain. I'd trade anybody for him regardless of how he is playing right now. He wins championships.

Xaston,
The Celtics have absolutely no chance of winning the title. They don't have a dominate big man. Kevin Garnett is a SG stuck in a 6 11 frame. Once the playoffs come around they will falter because the game becomes so much more of and inside beast game. Sorry.

I don't think I would be getting hustled Xas. I will think about it and get back to you.

Bosox,
Two words Micheal Jordan. Pretty much the only team that didn't have a great big man winning lots of titles.

Whoever said KG was 253 # that number is probably off by 30 pounds or so. I do see him being a completely different player than TD. He is a big guard, small forward trapped in a weird body. I am not discounting how good he is but he can't be considered a big man.

The case can be made for Chamberlain, Russell and then Shaq. But I still would put Shaq in front of Russell for his sheer dominance on both ends of the court. Even this point is splitting hairs. He is one of the greatest players of all time (I am guessing most of the forum can agree on this?) joining a team full of talent. Im sure people said the same thing about randy moss when he was aquired by the Pats, oh he is washed up blah blah blah.

I would guess that Marions # will go down with the Heat and Shaqs will go up with the Suns. Looks like a great move to me.

Also Rodman could rebound? Bosox he is the greatest rebounder to ever step foot on a basketball court. Couple that with the greatest player ever and you might win a few championships without a Shaq.

Of course I think Jordan wins titles against any great team, whether it has Shaq or Chamberlain or anyone else, he was just a large cut above everyone else.