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Nut low + NFD facing heavy action on flop (PLO8 $25 6-max)

Postby MTPaid » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:45 am

Anyone (and by that I mean Kuso and JD unless anyone else plays PLO8 here) not jamming the flop? I'm new to the table so no reads. I flopped the nut low, the nut flush draw, plus a gutshot straight draw. I bet, but I get raised and then check-raised all-in.

Am I mis-reading here? How much of a chance I'm quartered at the moment and drawing a lot thinner than I thought to the high nuts? Enough to make me ever consider a fold here? A call is probably useless as it'll go in anyway.

$0.1/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($12.65)
Hero ($24.65)
CO ($26.60)
BTN ($17.00)
SB ($15.25)
BB ($20.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 [3d][6c][Ah][Th]
UTG calls $0.25 ($12.40), Hero calls $0.25 ($24.40), CO calls $0.25 ($26.35), BTN calls $0.25 ($16.75), SB calls $0.15 ($15.00), BB checks ($20.20)

Flop: [5s][7h][2h] ($1.5, 6 players)
SB checks ($15.00), BB checks ($20.20), UTG checks ($12.40), Hero bets $1.25 ($23.15), CO raises to $5.2 ($21.15), 1 fold, SB folds ($15.00), BB folds ($20.20), UTG goes all-in $12.4 ($0.00), Hero ???
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Postby Kuso » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:27 am

wwcrd?

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:31 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby emmasdad » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:58 am

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Postby MTPaid » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:25 pm

I originally thought this was a no-brainer shove, but it turned out that I didn't have nearly as many outs as I thought I had. I wasn't in terrible shape, but I was quartered at the time and 3 of my hearts were gone and I was up against a 6 with an OESD compared to my GSSD.

It then got me to start second guessing for a minute. I was still surprised to see though that even though a number of my outs high outs were gone, I was still the favorite in the hand. I guess that's probably because I had my 25% of the low just about locked up.

$0.1/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($12.65)
Hero ($24.65)
CO ($26.60)
BTN ($17.00)
SB ($15.25)
BB ($20.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 [3d][6c][Ah][Th]
UTG calls $0.25 ($12.40), Hero calls $0.25 ($24.40), CO calls $0.25 ($26.35), BTN calls $0.25 ($16.75), SB calls $0.15 ($15.00), BB checks ($20.20)
ImageImageImageImage 23.60% (EV = $0.10)
ImageImageImageImage 49.60% (EV = $0.49)
ImageImageImageImage 26.80% (EV = $0.15)

Flop: [5s][7h][2h] ($1.5, 6 players)
SB checks ($15.00), BB checks ($20.20), UTG checks ($12.40), Hero bets $1.25 ($23.15), CO raises to $5.2 ($21.15), 1 fold, SB folds ($15.00), BB folds ($20.20), UTG goes all-in $12.4 ($0.00), Hero goes all-in $24.4 ($0.00), CO calls $19.2 ($1.95)
ImageImageImageImage 8.80% (EV = -$18.88)
ImageImageImageImage 42.90% (EV = $4.20)
ImageImageImageImage 48.30% (EV = $5.88)

Turn: [Kd] ($62.7, 3 players)
ImageImageImageImage 5.60% (EV = $3.51)
ImageImageImageImage 54.90% (EV = $21.25)
ImageImageImageImage 39.60% (EV = $24.83)

River: [4s] ($62.7, 3 players)
ImageImageImageImage 0.00% (EV = $0.00)
ImageImageImageImage 25.00% (EV = $9.68)
ImageImageImageImage 75.00% (EV = $47.02)

Final Pot: $62.70
CO shows: [Qh][4h][6h][Td]
UTG shows: [As][7s][Ac][3s]
Hero shows: [3d][6c][Ah][Th]

UTG wins $9.2 ( lost -$3.45 )
Hero wins $50.5 ( won +$25.85 )
CO lost -$24.65
BTN lost -$0.25
SB lost -$0.25
BB lost -$0.25

PS - Thank God this hand was on Stars cause I'd have no chance on Full Tilt. CO would have found a way to scoop there.
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