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Postby johnnie_naked » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:24 pm

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: Bet The Pot)

UTG ($6.20)
Button ($5.55)
SB ($7.30)
Hero ($11)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [Th], [Ts].
UTG calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.7, UTG calls $0.60, Button folds, SB folds.

Flop: ($1.60) [8d], [4s], [8c] (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, UTG raises to $4, Hero raises to $10.3, UTG calls $1.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($12.60) [Qc] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($12.60) [6h] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $12.60[/quote]
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Postby chuckwhoolery » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:13 am

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Postby Danhdan » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:51 am

I guess it's OK, but seriously, what is someone at this level going to be raising you on that flop that you beat? Unless your read was very aggressive(which is opposite style of a player at this level usually). Problem is he is decently short...still, I don't mind mucking this hand because you can get yourself into spots against opponents at NL10 where they are drawing slim and you know it rather than this marginal spot where you are WA/WB and most of the time behind IMO. Results for this hand?

LOL, Chuck said to call in this spot because players at this level are bad, and I said to fold this spot because players at this level are bad. Great reason, opposite advice.
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Postby ChaseThis » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:59 pm

Reads would be nice?

Most players are just calling with the underfull here. An 8 is more read-dependent. I'd say image as well, but probably not so much at these levels (unless you've been pretty active).

I think you'll see a smaller pair (or garbage) enough here to make it fine to call sometimes, but I'd really like to have a reason (read) why I am calling.

*edit*The more I think about it, without any reads at all...You raised limpers pre, you bet into multiple players on the flop...if you call it's you give villain zero credit. I think I'd find a fold w/o a read.
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Postby Semillon » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:07 pm

I would fold this 0% of the time.
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Postby johnnie_naked » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:37 pm

No reads on this particular villain. I'd never seen him before. I shoved the turn for a couple of reasons.

1) This, IMO, is rarely an 8. It is A4 a lot.

2) He was short.


Unfortunately, villain had 89 in this situation so what can you do.
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