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Postby iceman5 » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:34 pm

$1/$2 NL 6 max

Villain is a pretty good regular. Im not afraid of him or anything because he isnt overly tricky, but hes very solid and I respect his game.

He raises to $7 UTG. I call UTG+1 with [Jd][Td]. We're heads up to the flop. I start with $275 and he covers me.

Pot $17. Flop [Qh][9c][4d]. He bets $9. I call.
Pot $35. Turn [Ac]. He bets $25. I know I'll get paid off if I hit so I call again.
Pot $85. River [Kc]. So I hit, but so did a back door flush. He fires out full pot. Its $85 to me and I still have another $150 on top of this $85.

Call or push?
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Postby Twelver » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:46 pm

Shove, the ONLY hand we are scare of here is [Jc] [Tc] , then again if he is decent I don't see him calling with much less than QQQ
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Postby T-Rod » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:00 pm

How about waiting till the timer almost goes off and then pushing for full dramatic effect.

I think its a push for sure. How often do you see 3 full bullets. He's probably setted or two paired for sure and I no way give him credit for the flush raising UTG and 3 barrelling.

How come no flop raise? Aren't you really calling preflop with the designs of taking it away a good portion of the time given villians style?
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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:13 pm

QJ and QTs are also possible...I at least call...I think I shove because I don't think he has a flush, and he'll call. He has something like AQ here a lot.
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Postby T-Rod » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:12 pm

He also plays AA, KK and QQ like this too.

I think those hands make more sense out of a tightish UTG raiser.
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:53 pm

Meh....I shouldve pushed I guess. Based mainly in which flush cards are on the board. It will be rare that he has a flush. I called and he had QQQ.

If I shove, hes in a real pickle, but I cant see how he can lay that down even knowing I can have JT. He had the [Qc] so unless I floated the flop with something like [6c][5c] (which is possible) Im almost never going to have a flush.
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Postby Triple B » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:43 pm

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Villain: How?
Me: I had a feeling
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Postby spacemonkey » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:14 pm

not to hi-jack the thread but I feel this is relevant. If we are calling in these situations where we can't even have the second nuts is it better to raise or fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (3 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($43.30)
Button ($52.75)
Hero ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4Image, 6Image.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4) 5Image, 3Image, AImage (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10) AImage (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($10) 2Image (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BB raises to $21, Hero calls
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:37 pm

Yikes...please fold that cheese preflop. As for the hand, no, I dont think you have to raise or fold. I call or fold.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:27 pm

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby spacemonkey » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:57 pm

I expected "FOLD PREFLOP" response but this guy was super passive and giving me his blinds every round should i not raise him everytime? its a freeroll at this point and he's not catching on.

Obviously I don't want to value stack myself and he could be playing a set tricky but he has basically bet his stack and i've got a straight on a paired board.
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Postby Rhound50 » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:29 pm

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