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A Turn Raise--Hey Stop Laughing!? (200NL)

Postby T-Rod » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:10 am

Villain is pretty bad. He's running 65/24

In a prior hand he lead a A high flop, I raised with AT and he calls. Flop was like A85 and turn was a 2. He stop n goed me full pot and I folded.


Villain raises in MP

I call in LP and its HU full stacks.

Flop ($18) A[c] 8[d] 4[s]. He leads 15. I raise to $40. He calls.

Turn ($98). 5[c]. He leads $24.56. (LOL)

I raise him to $70.

1) Do we like if I have TT
2) Do we like if I have KQ
3) Do only like with TP or better?
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Postby iceman5 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:57 am

Only like with TP or better.
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Postby Dumb Snowman » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:53 pm

Regardless of your hand, that's an awful turn raise.
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Postby Triple B » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:58 pm

Villain: Why?
Villain: How?
Me: I had a feeling
Villian: Sit in you cretin
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Postby iceman5 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:50 pm

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Postby Dumb Snowman » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:40 pm

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Postby Dumb Snowman » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:23 am

Well, the raise sizing is awful, but you know that. The other problem is that with this raise he has 100% turned his hand into a bluff.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:34 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Dumb Snowman » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:50 am

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:51 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Dumb Snowman » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:15 am

The question was do you like with TT, KQ, or TP or better (although I'm just assuming top pair, and not like a set)

And with that sized raise I'm pretty sure it sucks no matter what you have.
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:09 am

If he has 23 of clubs or AA, I think the raise is perfect. I would probably raise more with AK but I dont hate it. I think the guy has something like AT and will call a medium raise.
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Postby Rhound50 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:26 pm

Trod limped in LP there is no way he has AA, he could have 88 or 44 though.

He raised the flop so I think we can throw [2c] [3c] too.

I pretty much hate the way you played this hand if you have either TT or KQ Trod. These are hands you should be raising in position against a bad limper. Either way if you decide to play them passively there is not a big pot to play for so there seems to be no reason to try to bluff a bad player. With TT maybe you can call the flop bet but the raise sucks, there is no draw that he could really be on and he likely is going to call you down with his ace. With KQ just fold to the flop bet, the pot is small and you have no real hand or draw. As DS said if you are going to raise as a bluff here making it $50 on top inot a pot that is $170 is just bad unless you have a monster.

With AK/AQ vs a calling station a I think the turn raise is ok but make it a real raise to protect your hand.
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