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Postby Pok 7's » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:05 pm

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Postby NorthView » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:56 pm

Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby hard2tel » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:24 pm

"But meh, what I lack for in talent and intelligence I make up for in lack of ambition." -- Oatmealforxmas

- make more than xaston and roy
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Postby JimmyJet » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:09 pm

This is the best thread on BTP for yonks.

Apart from BK being pwned, obv.
Mekos King (11:56:46 AM): LOL@NVobv
Mekos King (11:57:02 AM): circumstances are all conspiring perfectly
Mekos King (11:57:07 AM): to get ole NV to snuffit
Mekos King (11:57:14 AM): but the salty old tsr just refuses to
Mekos King (11:57:26 AM): goot thing guns are illegal id say
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Postby RedBarracuda » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:40 pm

HALP!

although it seems I've managed to make it a break even loss (wishful thinking) lately I can see that I seriously need help with this, and am therefore even more eager to get that chain coaching going

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Rly bad? Or standard for most?
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(6:36:14 PM) hard2tel45s: sweet
(6:36:30 PM) giantgrwth: He was my best friend too, lol
(6:36:48 PM) hard2tel45s: well u were in the crazy bin bro
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Postby iwanturcoin » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:36 pm

Red - i posted my stats a couple of months back when I was'nt playing well (plus not playing after a 2 month break) my green was well below my blue and Xas pointed out my W$WSF was too low at around 41%, so this is something I've really worked on and now my green/blue are pretty much running together and my W$WSF is about 46%....here's a couple of links that are pretty good....






Firstly i went back to 2 or 3 tables and really started looking for spots where i could steal pot s either double barreling or floating more instead of just bluff raising the flop....looking at betting the turn if checked to or bluff raising scare cards. This has had a huge impact on my game.

One thing in those threads that is discussed is using filters in PokerEV. Go to ur filters on ur Game Analysis Graph and apply filter for final pot size for less than 20 BB's and see if you are losing a lot, then do it for between 20 -50BB's and look. You'll probably find ur giving up too much in these pots and are getting pushed out too easily, this is something i really had to improve.

The "Unconventional Wisdom" series of vids at Deuces Cracked has some relly good stuff on spots to bluff and extracing more value etc....helped me a lot too.
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Postby Triple B » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:43 pm

Villain: Why?
Villain: How?
Me: I had a feeling
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Postby gsdavid » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:39 pm

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Postby bdon22 » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:48 pm

Roy and Xaston - what are your W$WSF stats like? I have noticed that all very good players have a very high W$WSF %. I believe CTS has something around 44-46%.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:51 pm

I thought CTS had a W$WSF of > 50% which is, well to be frank, absolutely insane.

Mine's around 45%.
Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby bdon22 » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:51 pm

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Postby gsdavid » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:33 am

those are mixed stats though...Its HU so its somewhat easier to have higher won when saw flop
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:36 am

gsdavid,

If you look closely at the stats you'll see that his 6max W$WSF is about 50%.
Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby gsdavid » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:41 am

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