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Postby Xaston » Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:13 pm

If everyone knew this, then they wouldn't all be bad TAGs, and then the whole post would be irrelevant.
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Postby k3nt » Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:08 pm

Can someone teach me how to recognize a "bad TAG" when I see one? Stats to look for? Or ...?
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Postby black_knight6 » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:43 pm

Start checkraising light, raising flops light, CBetting a bunch...you have to find ways to win pots without hands in order to get your WWSF>40%
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Postby Kuso » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:30 pm

Last edited by Kuso on Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:36 pm, edited 2 times in total.
wwcrd?

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Postby Kuso » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:31 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby RedBarracuda » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:43 pm

what about this?

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($505.00)
UTG+1 ($349.20)
CO ($744.40)
BTN ($537.90)
SB ($398.00)
Hero ($452.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 6 players) Hero is BB [8c][Jh]
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $4 ($345.20), 2 folds, SB calls $2 ($394.00), Hero checks ($448.00)

Flop: [Tc][Qc][6d] ($12, 3 players)
SB bets $8 ($386.00), Hero raises to $28 ($420.00), UTG+1 calls $28 ($317.20), SB calls $20 ($366.00)

Turn: [7d] ($96, 3 players)
SB checks ($366.00), Hero bets $70 ($350.00), UTG+1 calls $70 ($247.20), SB folds ($366.00)

River: [2d] ($236, 2 players)
Hero bets $250 ($100.00),
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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:56 pm

I think you can bet MUCH less on the river and get the same result. The ONLY hand you're folding out at this point is a busted draw, and he will fold that to a $100 bet just as quick as to a $250 bet.

Just for arguments sake, say he has a busted draw 50% of the time.

If you bet $100, you win $236 50% of the time and lose $100 50% of the time. Net EV $136.

If you bet $250, you lose $250 50% of the time and win $236 50% of the time. Net EV -$14.


Pretty freaking big difference.

Or, put another way. If you bet $100 he has to have a busted draw 30% of the time for you to break even. If you bet $250 he has to have a busted draw 52% of the time for you to break even. Less than one third, vs more than half. Once again, pretty big diff.
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Postby hard2tel » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:05 pm

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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:23 pm

A *lot* of people will call there with the nut flush draw.
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Postby iwanturcoin » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:43 am

i don't like the flop raise 3 way w an UTG limper still to act. HU would be fine.
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Postby spacemonkey » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:08 pm

I don't like it the pot wasn't worth the steal until you started raising it up, go after people that raise loosely from whichever position.

If they are weak tight bet any flop that comes out rags, bluff turns that complete draws etc...

If they are loose check raise a lot.

If you want to fold out a busted draw in the aforementioned hand you've got position and can check behind on the turn and bet a smallish bet on the river.
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Postby dropthe72 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:49 pm

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