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Postby tinodwg » Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:24 pm

Just started playing poker again and have a mini roll of 200$ so will be playing 10nl for a while.

Previously I was a winning player at both 25nl & 50nl, however as mentoned above I withdrew everything and took a break. I feel better for it.

Now my question is, I have good 6 max strategy ie. raise position, good hands in position, play aggressively, but continously find myself struggling to win at 10nl 6 max. When I raise the button/CO I get too many callers at this level for it to be profitable, how do I counteract this, what is the most profitable way to play, naturally for a TAG? I often think maybe at this level it would be more profitable to not raise see more flops and strike when I have a strong hand. At slightly higher limits, I feel I have more fold equity for my CB bets, good spots to represent hands that i know my opponents aren't holding.

Any advice would be helpful from those who've come through the other side of this.

Hope this makes sense. :?
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Postby chuckwhoolery » Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:52 pm

protect your hands and bet more...thats the curse of shitty online players...theyre aggro shitty and not t/w shitty or trying to make good folds shitty...they are having fun etc
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Postby chuckwhoolery » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:11 pm

^^^^^right Im the douchenozze that prompts posts to get hijacked....^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Postby chuckwhoolery » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:19 pm

is there a HU NLHE section in that book? cause if so....your a retard

well...take out the "if so" part either way
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Postby tinodwg » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:56 pm

[quote="black_knight6"][What is your CO/BTN opening range? Are you using a HUD?/quote]

Yes I'm using a HUD. I basically raise K6+, pocket pairs and SC. I find my CB bets hardly ever work when I miss though, should I not CB at all?
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Postby tinodwg » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:58 pm

JUST SENT A PM
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Postby johnnie_naked » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:46 am

How many hands have you put in at NL10 chuck?
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Postby johnnie_naked » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:57 am

So you bet pot and he calls and a flush card comes on the turn and you double barrel (see my NL50 post where chuck advocated this) and then you check call a blank river and lose.

Im not saying dont bet but Im saying keep your eyes open because the game is extremely loose and you could fall monstrously behind and lose large pots with marginal hands like TPTK.

If the board is safe then value bet all three streets but being too aggressive at this level is fucking suicide. Your entire bankroll will disappear if youre too aggressive or if you try and get these guys to fold.

Playing like a nit is the way to get the money at these levels. Im talking super tight, top 10%, play from position, C bet on dry boards, play weak in multiway pots with air because you are almost always behind and stand to bloat a pot cause they arent folding, nut peddle, etc. 2 pair is usually good.

Check raises are from what I have seen 40% set 40% 2 pair and 15% top pair and 5% bluffs. I rarely see flush draws being raised.

Semibluffs are ok in certain spots where you have a lot of equity (ie:2 overs and a flush draw) but with weak draws like OESD or Q high flush draws its better imo to just call in position for the most part cause raising is just bloating a pot when ur behind.

Play from position, work hard on your player based reads, and never EVER bluff.

With a full stack with the nuts, rather than reraise and face a call I usually just shove. I get called by top pair every single time and when they fold they have nothing so Im not getting the money anyway. Players at these levels call too much and we want to take advantage of that. If in any way we feel/see/taste that we are behind we immediately slow down and play weak. When we are ahead, fire double fisted until the fucking clip is empty.

I know on the surface this sounds obvious, but it is based very much on the reads you make, reads that will get better the more hands you play.

Example from the other day.

Villain is known to bet with strong hands (ie not JUST check call all the time) and we have AK and a board of 10J2 and fire on the flop and he just calls, turn comes A. We fire again and he shoves. IMO we are way behind almost every time here and have to fold. Sure sometimes we will be folding the best hand but I think most of the time we are beat here to 2 pair or KQ and drawing to at most 5 outs. I folded and he showed KQ.

The thing about this is that it is a perfect card to bluff on at higher limits and you will get better hands to fold but thinking players do not reside at NL10. They have it here like every time. They are very straightforward and its pretty easy to take advantage of players who are straightforward.

If we always fold when we are pretty sure we are behind, then in the long run we make way more money. If we value bet and get called by our opponents and we put them on a draw, by all means value bet the snot out of them and make them pay, but be goddamn ready to fold if they hit, and you KNOW when they hit.

Hope that helps.
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