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Really tough/akward preflop spot against 8x tabler

Postby DoctorHandles » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:04 pm

I'm at school so I don't have the exact hand history, but it's not hard to remember. Villain is 8x tabling and running at 20/18 or something similar. I have him at 2 tables (both he is directly to my left) and have been running at probably 24/21 or so over 70ish hands, I have been stealing a ton and 3-betting probably an average amount but nothing insane. He has 3-bet me twice and I've folded.

That said I have been owning at both the tables he's on so he shouldn't have me pegged as weak-tight or spewy. We're full stacked.

1. UTG donk (24/4) limps, I raise AJo on the CO to $5, villain 3-bets the button to $16.

Is there any way to play in this spot without getting owned by the button? The button probably knows I'm raising lightly here (not sure) and AJo makes up like the top 20% of my opening range. I can't 4-bet bluff/fold here either because I opened to $5 and he 3-bet me to $16, so blah.

Anyways I'm just totally lost how to combat the button in this spot since I can't 4-bet/fold and I'm oop. Should I be flatting here other than with hands like 99-AA? Right now I think I'd 4-bet shove AK/AQ/A5s/A4s/QQ and I would flat 99-JJ, KK/AA but I have no idea if that's good. What should I be doing with hands like JTs? Is flatting oop here ever good or should I just be 4-bet shoving my entire range of good hands and a lot of bluffs? Alas.
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Postby hard2tel » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:24 pm

usually i just let a good player get away with this shit until we get deeper. Then i can start 4-bet bluffing oop without having to call a 5bet push etc.

Sometimes I call oop with AJs type hands with the intention of c/r'ing a lot of flops but im starting to think that's unnecessarily spewy.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:31 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby hard2tel » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:42 pm

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Postby DoctorHandles » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:54 pm

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