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interesting hand DEEP 2/5 NL at foxwoods

Postby charlie sheepskins » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:59 pm

villan here is by all standards in live poker good. We know he is capable of moves and seems to have good timing with them. We know he plays 1/2 and 2/4 on stars (forget the s/n)

Table is very aggro (stnd 2/5 table at foxwoods). Several donks, but they're spewey overaggro donks.

8 handed, been at the table for 30min-1hr

Stacks:
everyone at the table has at least 500, 3 players (including me) have 1k+ and the rest are barely over the max BI.
I have 1200
villan has 1400

I am dealt QQ in MP

utg limp, utg+1 (villan) limp, I limp, button limps, sb fold, bb check

flop: AQ6r Pot 27

check, villan checks, I bet 25, fold, fold, fold, villan calls

turn: T Pot 77

villan checks, I bet 55, villan calls

river: A Pot 187

Villan checks, I bet 100, vilan raises to 450, we?

I have a theory on what the "correct" play would be, I also know what I did. But before I get into that I want to hear you guys' thoughts.

p.s. let's not focus on my preflop play, that is a completely seperate debate. Let us just assume it was the right thing to do given the table dynamic (and it was)
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Re: interesting hand DEEP 2/5 NL at foxwoods

Postby Xaston » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:06 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby Xaston » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:09 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Re: interesting hand DEEP 2/5 NL at foxwoods

Postby charlie sheepskins » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:10 am

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Re: interesting hand DEEP 2/5 NL at foxwoods

Postby Xaston » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:12 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby charlie sheepskins » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:16 am

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Postby JimmyJet » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:28 am

double post
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Mekos King (11:56:46 AM): LOL@NVobv
Mekos King (11:57:02 AM): circumstances are all conspiring perfectly
Mekos King (11:57:07 AM): to get ole NV to snuffit
Mekos King (11:57:14 AM): but the salty old tsr just refuses to
Mekos King (11:57:26 AM): goot thing guns are illegal id say
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Postby JimmyJet » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:30 am

Confusement reigns supreme.

So the button/SB, who has obv morphed into the same person, in this super aggressive game you speak of, where everyone limps, habitually min raises up limpers but didn't do so in this case.

And UTG+1(villian) who is by all accounts a good live player and a reg at 2/4, limps after a limper. Ok. And we have queens full and are only behind to quad aces and the very unlikely AQ, AT and A6 (does a "good player ever limp these hands?)

Do I have that right?
Mekos King (11:56:46 AM): LOL@NVobv
Mekos King (11:57:02 AM): circumstances are all conspiring perfectly
Mekos King (11:57:07 AM): to get ole NV to snuffit
Mekos King (11:57:14 AM): but the salty old tsr just refuses to
Mekos King (11:57:26 AM): goot thing guns are illegal id say
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Postby hard2tel » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:45 am

if villain is really a good player then he never has anything other than AT here imo. But given the fact that your opinion of a good player is probably different than most people including me i would call.
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Postby charlie sheepskins » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:55 pm

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Postby hard2tel » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:31 pm

"But meh, what I lack for in talent and intelligence I make up for in lack of ambition." -- Oatmealforxmas

- make more than xaston and roy
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Postby Aisthesis » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:36 am

Surely no one is laying this down?? I agree with not shoving.
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