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Postby AdamtheExpert » Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:32 am

Ok, sometimes I can't answer, but I would say that 80-90% of your questions, will be answered. Actually, I will try to answer all, but those that involve top secret material, may not receive a FULL answer.

So, please, resume.

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Postby Dumb Snowman » Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:16 am

The game is Razz.
You hold [A2]3 and raise in MP after a limper, and get one call, as well as the limper.
On fourth street:
Hero - [A2] 3 6
Limper - [xx] A 5
LP - [xx] 7 3

Limper checks, you raise, LP reraises, limper check-re-raises. You call, LP Calls.

On fifth street you hit a 2, Limper hits a 8, LP hit a 8 as well.

I call a bet from limper, LP raises, Limper reraises.

What do you do facing 2 raises after getting counterfeited? What if I were paired again on 6th? Or Had hit a 9 on fifth and paired on 6th?

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First, a question from me

Postby AdamtheExpert » Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:30 am

Ok, I can answer this, but the math will take some time. I prefer to answer questions that are only hypothetical, if they could actually happen.

Did this actually happen? ATE finds it difficult to believe that these players could raise and reraise, with eights, when you could have a six or seven!!

Now, I know that there are Crazed Action Players out there, and if this actually happened, I will take the time to give a correct answer.

ATE has played razz, and in general people just don't go crazy, with hands that could be hopelessly beaten. Especially the guy with the 87 raising, when BOTH opponents could easily have him beaten.
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Postby Dumb Snowman » Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:53 pm

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Ok,

Postby AdamtheExpert » Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:14 am

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answer for razz

Postby AdamtheExpert » Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:44 pm

Ok, I said I'll answer this. But, I'm don't want to really get that much into RAZZ

Almost no one plays it, and it will NEVER NEVER NEVER be a popular game . . . . . AGAIN


this does not mean that the asker is not entitled to his answer, just that I do not want to get into a detailed answer.



Call, the pot odds justify it

Pairing does not weaken your hand, it actually helps it (as opposed to catching a king)

normal Razz players, would NEVER put in all that action, when you COULD have a six and be slowplaying.
And, the 2 is one of the cards that could help one of the opponents improve to a better hand, in the event that you make yours.

At this point, you have about a 30% chance to win the pot. AND, you will not have to pay the river bet, if you don't make a hand. But, they BOTH will have to call the size of the pot, if you make your six


Note: If several more of the cards you need were already gone on thrd, forget it

LIVE CARDS, are essential in any stud-type game

Hope ths helps

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Postby Dumb Snowman » Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:50 pm

Much appreciated Adam. You rock!
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