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Jamming on the turn... correct play?

Postby Kuso » Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:44 am

What are your thoughts about jamming on the turn?

My thinking was that only 5 cards kill me (three 2s and two 3s -- the 3 of clubs is good). Any club and I get 3/4, otherwise 1/2. It seemed like a semi-freeroll, but....

Comments?

$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo

Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Luxorr ( $10.80 )
Seat 2: Nisha81 ( $29.30 )
Seat 5: Hero ( $80.90 )
Seat 6: D_312 ( $59.44 )
Seat 7: noobie69 ( $21.88 )
Seat 8: BozzieJr ( $20.70 )
Seat 9: Eaglesfan_1 ( $18.79 )
Seat 10: krazyjim ( $33.10 )
Seat 3: klace ( $24.50 )
klace posts small blind [$0.10].
Hero posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qc 2c 7s 3s ]
D_312 folds.
noobie69 raises [$0.75].
pgs_angel has joined the table.
BozzieJr folds.
Eaglesfan_1 folds.
krazyjim folds.
Luxorr folds.
Nisha81 folds.
klace calls [$0.65].
Hero calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Ac, Tc ]
klace checks.
Hero bets [$2.15].
noobie69 raises [$8.60].
klace folds.
Hero calls [$6.45].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
Hero bets [$18.50].
noobie69 is all-In.
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
Hero shows [ Qc, 2c, 7s, 3s ] two pairs, sevens and twos.
Hero shows 8,7,3,2,A for low.
noobie69 shows [ 3h, Ad, 6c, Ah ] three of a kind, aces.
noobie69 shows 7,6,3,2,A for low.
Hero wins $2.99 from side pot #1 with two pairs, sevens and twos.
Hero wins Lo ($2.98) from side pot #1 with 8,7,3,2,A.
noobie69 wins $21.16 from the main pot with three of a kind, aces.
noobie69 wins Lo ($21.15) from the main pot with 7,6,3,2,A.


Twodimes #s:

FLOP

pokenum -o8 qc 2c 7s 3s - 3h ad 6c ah -- 7d ac tc
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Ac Tc 7d
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
7s 3s Qc 2c 178 199 621 0 450 36 9 0.428
6c Ad Ah 3h 291 621 199 0 108 378 9 0.572

OK, slight dog on the flop. Should I have folded?


TURN

pokenum -o8 qc 2c 7s 3s - 3h ad 6c ah -- 7d ac tc 8d
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 40 enumerated boards containing Ac Tc 8d 7d
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
7s 3s Qc 2c 6 6 34 0 37 3 0 0.537
6c Ad Ah 3h 3 34 6 0 3 37 0 0.463

And a slight favorite now. Not sure what to make of this.

As usual, any and all comments are welcome.

[edited for layout]
Last edited by Kuso on Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby GooperMC » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:40 am

My 2 thoughts are:
- Don't call that pre-flop raise OOP
- If you are going to call that flop raise you should have pushed all in. You are OOP if you flat call there are 4 possible scenarios:
1) You miss everything and are forced to fold to his turn bet
2) You hit the low and the %ages don't really change against a set.
3) You hit the flush with a high club and your opponent slows down. Since you are OOP it is going to be really hard to get the max out of this hand.
4) You hit the flush with a low card and now he really slows down and you don't get paid off.

On that flop my preferred play would be
1) Raise
2) Fold
3) Call.

If he is a VERY solid player (which you see very little at $25 tables) folding isn't bad but against everyone else shove it in a pray.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:54 am

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A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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Postby GooperMC » Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:11 pm

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