I flopped a set of aces and I think I screwed the pooch with my post-flop play. I put somebody on a set of jacks, and I wanted their money in on the turn. With four people seeing the turn, I assumed two lows and a set of jacks.... maybe a draw to a straight. Well, the str8 draw hit, and I was not happy. I called and I think it was a mistake. I was saved a bit due to the winner being shortstacked (the set of jacks payed me off a bit), but I was still not happy.

In retrospect, I think that I should have jammed on the flop and tried take the pot there or get heads up with a low.

Comments? Suggestions?

25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: h7390 ( $55.66 )
Seat 2: kyttykat ( $9.10 )
Seat 4: Scooby14k ( $91.19 )
Seat 5: Cruzin ( $14.29 )
Seat 6: Mother_Natur ( $20.87 )
Seat 7: shoven ( $21.30 )
Seat 8: smellyrat ( $39.17 )
Seat 10: nick1105 ( $59.85 )
Seat 9: oddsmakers47 ( $25.05 )
Seat 3: Hero ( $22.15 )
Scooby14k posts small blind [$0.10].
Cruzin posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As 4d 8h Ah ]
Mother_Natur folds.
shoven calls [$0.25].
smellyrat folds.
oddsmakers47 calls [$0.25].
nick1105 folds.
h7390 calls [$0.25].
kyttykat folds.
Hero raises [$0.50].
Scooby14k calls [$0.40].
Cruzin calls [$0.25].
shoven raises [$0.50].
oddsmakers47 calls [$0.50].
h7390 calls [$0.50].
Hero calls [$0.25].
Scooby14k calls [$0.25].
Cruzin calls [$0.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Jh, Ad ]
Scooby14k checks.
Cruzin checks.
shoven bets [$4.30].
oddsmakers47 calls [$4.30].
h7390 folds.
Hero calls [$4.30].
Scooby14k folds.
Cruzin calls [$4.30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
Cruzin is all-In.
shoven is all-In.
oddsmakers47 folds.
Hero calls [$16.25].
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
Cruzin shows [ 4h, 2h, Kc, Qh ] a straight, ten to ace.
shoven shows [ Js, 2s, Jd, 8d ] three of a kind, jacks.
Hero shows [ As, 4d, 8h, Ah ] three of a kind, aces.
Hero wins $13.47 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, aces.
Cruzin wins $46.97 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.
There was no qualifying low hand.

i have made 3 massively boneheaded plays today. this has never happened before.

i guess watching the TW challenge yesterday influenced my judgment in a very -EV way.

make that 4... somehow i thought the rules had changed and i could use 3 cards from my hand.

the meds i'm taking for my back must be messing with my head.

this is really weird.

too much man, you took too much


sorry couldnt resist

well, certainly not too much, but maybe i just underestimate how much it influences my cognitive faculties (which are limited in the first place).

Well said, Gooper... thanks.

Wow, you hit a great flop. You have to jam that. Three good reasons:

1) No-one in PLO25 is dropping a set of anything on the flop. I wouldn't worry about that.

2) If BOTH players have low-orientated cards, you may be able to get rid of one of them and counterfeit the other for low; your awful low feature may just scoop you the pot if the board turns and river throws out a deuce. Probably won't against two players, though.

3) Charge the draws man, jeez... That's an awfully cheap card to give to anyone who has TKQ and a 9 outer to a scooping nut hand.

If there's a flush draw out and you don't have anything going low, calling actually becomes a promising move because your hand (despite being the temporary nuts) becomes rather weak and needs a lot of help to enable you to go to the felt. Pushing all in here with no low draw and only a set for high with a draw-heavy board is a nice way to give someone a virtual freeroll.

Slow playing in PLO8 when there's a two to a low and you don't have any sort of low is not a very good play. I think you kinda got what you deserved mind you... I bet at $25 they'd both have called anyhow, so perhaps it didn't really matter in this instance. That's a LITTLE bit of consolation, at least!

Kid, put a flush draw out on that flop and it's not quite as big a stick:
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1174830
pokenum -o8 kc qh 4h 2h - js 2s jd 8d - as 4d ah 8h -- 6d ad jh
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 666 enumerated boards containing Ad 6d Jh
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Kc Qh 4h 2h 57 66 600 0 381 0 32 0.362
Js 2s Jd 8d 63 235 431 0 39 366 8 0.248
As 4d Ah 8h 115 365 301 0 39 342 32 0.390

Still +EV, but not by much.