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Postby m9man » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:32 pm

been playing a little PLO, will post a few hands.

but i wanted to ask about a few hands specifically and whether or not they are playable preflop [GENERALLY]

I assume these are garbage:
[Qs] [3s] [3c] [3h]
[Kh] [Qh] [9h] [4h]
[Ad] [Kc] [9c] [5h]

but what about - 3 card wraps with middle pair but 3 suited cards? assume that three suited [esp when not the A] is bad...like
[9h] [9d] [8h] [7h]

this is really dumb of me to ask but is wrap features the same as straight features? connected cards basically capable of making straights.
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Postby briachek » Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:17 am

first off, those first hands are garbage like you said. You are looking for 4 cards that work well together.

second, mid wrap hands like 9987 with 3 to a suit isn't that great of a hand. If you hit your set, you are vunerable still. your flush is garbage as you have an extra of the suit and its only 9 high. I would possibly play that in late position for a limp. Don't get too attached to it. Hands like that and 5678 and such, you are looking for specific flops if not, you dump it.

I've always considered wrap features different than straight features. AK78 has straigh features, but not wrap features since you will only get a gutshot or an open ended draw. however, JT86 has wrap features is fhte flop comes 97Q as many cards make you a straight.
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Postby euri10 » Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:24 am

i'd say that a raise with your last hand in position if you hit your flop will give you action, that's the only beauty of that hand,
for instance I played this garbage and flop quads, the river is questionnable but..

Hand #7680640-1323 at Greensboro (Pot Limit Omaha)
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Started at 15/Aug/05 13:48:26

Ultimate Bet Pot-Limit Omaha High, $2 BB (7 handed)

Euri10 ($283.70)
MP2 ($65.50)
CO ($125.05)
Button ($81)
SB ($193.45)
BB ($276.60)
UTG ($54.25)

Preflop: Euri10 is MP1 with [6c], [4s], [5h], [4d].
UTG calls $2, Euri10 raises to $9, 1 fold, CO calls $9, 1 fold, SB calls $8, 1 fold, UTG folds.

Flop: ($31) [4c], [2c], [4h] (3 players)
SB checks, Euri10 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($31) [3c] (3 players)
SB checks, Euri10 bets $12, CO raises to $30, SB folds, Euri10 calls $18.

River: ($91) [7h] (2 players)
Euri10 bets $91, CO folds.

Final Pot: $182
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:09 pm

Not much to add really - briachek and euri said it all! Good answers...

I can, however, briefly plug the starting hands article which can be found here: pot-limit-omaha-page35.html - some ideas about the sort of hands you should (and shouldnt) be playing, and some reasons why.
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