Back on this this afternoon and WOW are there guys bad!!!

Made about 3 buyins in a bit over half an hour, including when i quartered myaself misreading a hand and then pushed off half a stack on a misclick. Picked up some nice hands but they pay off EVERY TIME! I mean, I flop AAQ, I have AQ. One bet, I raise the maximum, he RE-raises all in! He only has an ace. Unbelievable.

Anyway, all good fun! The bad play means you can play a ton of hands too, which i personally enjoy

Monk
xxxxx

PS How about THIS for a flop

***** Hand History for Game 1407561616 *****
$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Saturday, January 08, 13:39:03 EDT 2005
Table The Nuts (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: greatgimp2 ( $62.11 )
Seat 2: UgaVII ( $30.11 )
Seat 3: mrdannyg ( $28.85 )
Seat 4: battlecat_1 ( $15.93 )
Seat 5: Pizdets ( $23.61 )
Seat 6: offroad373 ( $27.75 )
Seat 7: Fel_Monk ( $52.35 )
Seat 8: miggs ( $33.55 )
Seat 9: omaho ( $25 )
Seat 10: Wuuman ( $54.27 )
battlecat_1 posts small blind [$0.25].
Pizdets posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Fel_Monk [ 2h Tc Ah 8c ]
omaho: offroad - u r just a hillybilly that aint got broke yet
offroad373 folds.
Fel_Monk raises [$1].
miggs calls [$1].
omaho folds.
Wuuman calls [$1].
offroad373: what is a hillybilly?
Fel_Monk: omaho, you're a bit of a nob
greatgimp2 folds.
UgaVII folds.
mrdannyg folds.
battlecat_1 calls [$0.75].
omaho: go brush your tooth
Pizdets folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 6h, 9h ]
UgaVII: omaho is funny yo
Fel_Monk: lol
battlecat_1 checks.
>You have options at tempest Table!.
Fel_Monk bets [$0.5].
offroad373: no seriously what is a hillybilly
miggs folds.
Wuuman calls [$0.5].
>You have options at tempest Table!.
battlecat_1 calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
battlecat_1 checks.
>You have options at Table 10778 Table!.
Fel_Monk bets [$4].
Wuuman folds.
>You have options at tempest Table!.
battlecat_1 calls [$4].
** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]
battlecat_1 checks.
>You have options at Table 10821 Table!.
Fel_Monk bets [$13.3].
battlecat_1 is all-In [$10.43]
Fel_Monk shows [ 2h, Tc, Ah, 8c ] a flush, ace high.
Fel_Monk shows 7,6,3,2,A for low.
battlecat_1 doesn't show [ 4d, Kh, 5h, Qd ] a flush, king high.
battlecat_1 doesn't show 7,6,5,4,3 for low.
Fel_Monk wins $1.44 from side pot #1 with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
Fel_Monk wins Lo ($1.43) from side pot #1 with 7,6,3,2,A.
Fel_Monk wins $16.58 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
Fel_Monk wins Lo ($16.58) from the main pot with 7,6,3,2,A.

Hey monk, what's with the min raise in ep. I thought you hate min raises and shouldn't do it. I know this is Hi/Lo so is this a more acceptable play for an A2 hand to build the pot without driving out opponents?

Yeah I normally raise about 2x BB (or 3x if there's some limpers to me), I presume the small raise here was simply because I was playing mutliple tables and couldn't be bothered moving the raise bar . I tend to raise all A2 hands in unraised pots that have some shot at making high. This hand has a suited ace and a second suited middling straight pairing so that fits my usual raising criteria. Now and again in the bigger games I mix it up by throwing in a full raise (simply because if I only do that with AA-wheel type hands it's a pretty big tell).

Raising in O8 is almost always a "pulling" play (the only exception I can think of is if it's a multiway pot with a raise in already, or a big pot with a ton of limpers, and you can raise big with a hand like AA2, AA3, or even AA4 etc in LP and attempt to narrow the field thus "promoting" your excellent short-handed high and low features). So when I raise I tend not to over-egg the pudding and make it by small amounts preflop that won't put off anyone who was going to call anyway. Raising preflop is a TOTALLY different move in omaha and hold'em and often is for a totally different reason; in hold'em you're looking to remove hands that are weaker than your strong holding but which would have enough equity to see a flop and maybe hit something to derail your hand if you only limp. In omaha you are almost always WANTING these hands in, but simply to build a pot with a holding that is significantly better than the average opponents' hand. This is perhaps more often the case in PLO8 rather than PLO (where minimising the number of callers and making the blinds fold can have it's charm too). I find online the best way to do this is to make small raises unless I particularly want to push people out of the pot. It also means that on a good flop you can bet twice or three-times as much in a pot-limit game than you would if you just limped.

In a game with a proper stack you should just raise the maximum if it's limped to you in O8 (though raising first up is something a lot of people disagree on; many really good O8 players will never raise a hand in the early seats, only re-raising monsters and calling everything else to build a multiway pot). At party, with 50BBs, I don't think you want to put more than 3 or 4 BBs in preflop, maximum, with a strong drawing hand but one that needs a specific flop.

Whaddya think of the flop anyhow I can hardly think of a better one for that hand! The minimum bet on the FLOP however was a little weak. I should almost certainly have checked this and raised the max if someone fired a bet out. The other alternative is making a weedy bet (say 1/3 of the pot) to give people spurious odds to play flush and low draw type hands that weren't to the nuts. Any case, I got one opponent all in by the river so I can't exactly complain! This hand was so good I'd probably happily have bet half my bankroll on it on the flop he he he.

Monk
xxxxx

I can hardly imagine a better flop for your hand. made nut straight with a draw to the nut flush and backdoor to nut low? I would spit out my drink onto my screen when I saw that. Board probably would have paired if I was playing though

The guy you got all in was playing his flush like a wimp. if he thought it was good, he should have probably pushed (imo) to push out your potential low draw. Otherwise, he called off his whole stack only being able to beat someone with no low, overplaying a straight or trips. If he was gonna call it off, he should have bet it all to get you to fold any draws you had left. However, in this case, he couldn't lay done the second nuts with barely a low.