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Nice hand to snap off aces....

Postby Felonius_Monk » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:09 pm

Interesting hand that came up tonight. Basically all the variables fell into place to enable me to make a +EV call with just top pair no kicker - I made a raise in position preflop with my nice drawing hand, and a decent player makes a maximum re-re-raise which surely means AA. Another reasonable, if slightly loose, player calls.

On the flop it comes very ragged with my pair as top pair. Now, the AA guy moves all in. I can assume the other guy doesn't have much to call with on this board, set of Ts is very unlikely given the T in my hand, and the only other hands that have me in any trouble are 44xx and 33xx, highly unlikely given the flop re-raise. Two pair doesn't hurt my hand much as I can still hit all my sidecards to win. Of course, AA could always have one of the low sets, but it seems extremely unlikely. So I know if I hit any of my kickers (all higher than the 4 and 3 on board) I'll win with two pair. This actually gives me close to 45% equity against aces, so it makes the call well worth it. If I had a draw in addition (say, T965) I could actually be favourite, although if there's a flush draw or more coordinated board showing i'd be more willing to fold (if i don't have the draws) because I could be a big dog to AA with a draw on the side.

------HAND 1------
Game #942962354: Omaha High Pot Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/09/20 - 17:24:04 (ET)
Table "Snowball" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: AasKop ($219.25 in chips)
Seat 2: kad97 ($31 in chips)
Seat 3: Jackoneal ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 4: kulta ($109.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Sevenout ($191.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Babacita ($149.50 in chips)
Seat 7: ME ($98 in chips)
Seat 8: HITMEBABY ($43.50 in chips)
Seat 9: PunisherX ($44 in chips)
Seat 10: PotAddict ($175.75 in chips)
kad97: posts small blind $0.50
Jackoneal: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to ME [7s 8h Js Th]
kulta: calls $1
Sevenout: calls $1
Babacita: folds
ME: raises to $5.50
HITMEBABY: folds
PunisherX: folds
PotAddict: folds
AasKop: calls $5.50
kad97: folds
Jackoneal: folds
kulta: folds
Sevenout: raises to $24.50
ME: calls $19
AasKop: calls $19
----- FLOP ----- [4h 3c Td]
Sevenout: bets $76
ME: is all-in $73.50
AasKop: raises to $194.75 and is all-in
Sevenout: is all-in $90.75
Returned uncalled bets $28 to AasKop
----- TURN ----- [4h 3c Td][5s]
----- RIVER ----- [4h 3c Td 5s][6s]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
AasKop: shows [Qh Ts Qd 4s] (Two Pairs, Tens and Fours, Six high)
Sevenout: shows [Ah Kc As 6d] (A Pair of Aces, Ten high)
ME: shows [7s 8h Js Th] (A Straight, Eight high)
AasKop collected $186.50 from Side pot #1
ME collected $293.50 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $483 Main pot $293.50 Side pot #1 $186.50 | Rake $3
Board [4h 3c Td 5s 6s]
Seat 1: AasKop (button) showed [Qh Ts Qd 4s] and won ($186.50) with Two Pairs, Tens and Fours, Six high
Seat 2: kad97 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Jackoneal (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: kulta folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Sevenout lost
Seat 6: Babacita folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ME showed [7s 8h Js Th] and won ($293.50) with A Straight, Eight high
Seat 8: HITMEBABY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: PunisherX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: PotAddict folded before Flop (didn't bet)

So, a nice, if slightly lucky, pot. The coolest thing is the odds on the hand, though - although intuitively you'd think aces and two pair, two better hands than mine, would have me in bad shape, I'm actually close to 40% equity in this three way pot! You won't see many better situations in a big pot in PLO!

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1231944
pokenum -o 7s 8h js th - ah kc as 6d - qh ts qd 4s -- 4h 3c td
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 3c Td 4h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 7s Th 8h 254 38.14 412 61.86 0 0.00 0.381
As Kc 6d Ah 186 27.93 480 72.07 0 0.00 0.279
Ts 4s Qd Qh 226 33.93 440 66.07 0 0.00 0.339

Just thought it was worth bringing up. The situation needs to be right but you can often get your money in with very raggy hands and be in very good shape against a re-raiser you've put on aces - one of the major problems with re-raising preflop when the money is very deep (oddly, if he just called my raise then lead the flop, i'd have folded and there'd be no story, except presumably him folding to the 2 pair guy re-raising, and losing a medium sized pot - Sevenout's ill-advised preflop re-raise cost him a very large stack here, nearly two buy-ins).
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Postby briachek » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:13 pm

wow, i just looked at your hand and all i see is top pair and gutshot, how could that have a good chance to win? I'll have to reread it again.
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Postby Xaston » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:58 pm

Because he has 3 freakin kickers he can spike to beat the guys aces.
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