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Would you ever raise this river?

Postby briachek » Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:29 pm

***** Hand History for Game 2852734779 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Fri Oct 14 00:58:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 36658 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Paniolo44 ( $31.03)
Seat 2: ilovedeath ( $25)
Seat 3: caryrosario ( $36.37)
Seat 4: briachek4 ( $37.20)
Seat 5: Frida83 ( $25.45)
Seat 6: rubeus1 ( $19.75)
Seat 7: CrazyAmi ( $27.45)
Seat 8: Ola_G ( $25.70)
Seat 9: rchanpk1 ( $4.65)
Seat 10: oledrawball ( $16.70)
CrazyAmi posts small blind (0.10)
Ola_G is sitting out.
rchanpk1 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek4 [ 2c, Kc, Js, Jc ]
oledrawball calls (0.25)
Paniolo44 calls (0.25)
ilovedeath folds.
caryrosario calls (0.25)
briachek4 calls (0.25)
Frida83 folds.
rubeus1 folds.
CrazyAmi folds.
rchanpk1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ad, Jd, 3s ]
rchanpk1 checks.
oledrawball checks.
Paniolo44 checks.
caryrosario bets (0.75)
briachek4 raises (3.55) to 3.55
rchanpk1 folds.
oledrawball folds.
Paniolo44 folds.
caryrosario calls (2.80)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6c ]
caryrosario checks.
briachek4 bets (8.05)
caryrosario calls (8.05)
** Dealing River ** : [ 3h ]
caryrosario bets (10)
briachek4: why do i feel i'm being trapped
briachek4 calls (10)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $42.35 | Rake: $2.20
Board: [ Ad Jd 3s 6c 3h ]
caryrosario balance $14.52, lost $21.85 [ Kd Ah 4d Tc ] [ two pairs, aces and threes -- Ah,Ad,Kd,3s,3h ]
briachek4 balance $57.70, bet $21.85, collected $42.35, net +$20.50 [ 2c Kc Js Jc ] [ a full house, Jacks full of threes -- Js,Jc,Jd,3s,3h ]

I figured he could have AA or quads but there is a chance he made 3's full. Do you ever take the chance and raise this river?
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:43 pm

I think your play is fine, unless you have this guy pegged as a real live one. usually it's either a bluff or a hand that beats your, neither of which you need/want to raise. However, if he's a balloon you might get the rest of his stack with 3s full or even just trip 3s. These sort of players are probably more common in your games i'd have thought!
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Postby Kuso » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:32 am

wow... after seeing this, i may have to reconsider my theory that check-callers don't wake up on the river unless they hit their hands.

whether to raise or not is a tough one. this guy is obviously a donk, but did you have him pegged as one? i don't think i would risk it unless i saw some BIG negative numbers in pto.
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Postby briachek » Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:08 am

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Postby Kuso » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:28 pm

looking over it again, his betting pattern on the flop and turn (i.e., lots of calling, very little betting) didn't represent AA. have you seen AA played like this before?
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Postby briachek » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:32 pm

yes I have.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:40 pm

ugh.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:11 pm

Ditto, but it's kind of rare.
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