This hand just left me...

fwiw, up until this point, HTP was a fairly sizable winner in my PTO db, and Lapras was a fairly substantial loser.

can anyone walk me through this hand? i just can't figure out what they were thinking. the best i can come up with is:

Lapras was drawing to a weakly protected nut low.

HTP was trying to push Lapras off his hand on a stone cold bluff (OK, he had a draw to a gutter, but still...).

What chaps my a s s the most is that neither of these dudes would give me any action.


$100 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
Table Table 68569 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: jokerpoker57 ( $27.51 )
Seat 4: dsw1977 ( $117.69 )
Seat 5: masonfiftyfi ( $184.03 )
Seat 6: HTP_PTH ( $238.33 )
Seat 7: Lapras ( $283.07 )
Seat 9: Hero ( $107 )
Seat 3: Diderot123 ( $79.02 )
Seat 8: Duckfan12345 ( $139.10 )
Seat 2: michellehair ( $84.30 )
Seat 10: sgavaz ( $79.95 )
Duckfan12345 posts small blind [$0.50].
Hero posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Jd 8h 3s Ks ]
sgavaz folds.
jokerpoker57 folds.
michellehair folds.
Diderot123 folds.
dsw1977 calls [$1].
masonfiftyfi folds.
HTP_PTH raises [$4.50].
Lapras calls [$4.50].
Duckfan12345 folds.
Hero folds.
dsw1977 calls [$3.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 3d, Jc ]
dsw1977 checks.
HTP_PTH bets [$14.25].
Lapras calls [$14.25].
dsw1977 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
HTP_PTH bets [$41.35].
Lapras raises [$165.40].
HTP_PTH is all-In [$178.23]
Lapras calls [$54.18].
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
Lapras shows [ 8s, Td, 2h, Ad ] a pair of jacks.
Lapras shows 7,5,3,2,A for low.
HTP_PTH doesn't show [ 9c, 8d, 2d, 6h ] a pair of jacks.
HTP_PTH doesn't show 7,6,5,3,2 for low.
Lapras wins $239.83 from the main pot with a pair of jacks with ace kicker.
Lapras wins Lo ($239.83) from the main pot with 7,5,3,2,A.

People do strange things. I can't explain it really, I quite often see this and it's inexplicable every time - some players who play perfectly (or relatively) normally and then just throw away a ton of money on something unbelievable.

HTP was just around 100 hands, Lapras was at about 700. not really reliable data. that being said, the stats were at the far extremes, so i gave them a little bit of credence.

Lapras is a loser at several levels i have data for -- perhaps 500 more hands.

anyway, i am still bitter that neither of these clowns would give me action.