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Postby Smokin'Al » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:12 pm

This hand amused me; and, although there's nothing intrinsically interesting about the play, it occurred to me that you could probably name the hands of the three protagonists based on the positions, actions, and delays for thought (and that this would be fun!). So...

Party NL $100. BB is solid-looking player on $150, haven't seen much of him. MP (me) is on $102, haven't been there long nor played many hands. MP+1, let's call him Table Captain (or TC), is on $300. He seems aggressive but OKish.

Pre-flop: one limper in front of me. I think for a few seconds and limp. TC limps behind me, as do two others. SB folds and BB checks.

Flop [Ah] [Tc] [6c] , $13 and 6 players. BB bets out $5, limper folds, I pause and then min-raise to $10. TC calls quickly, the table folds round to BB, who thinks for a fair while then calls.

Turn ( [Ah] [Tc] [6c] ) [Js] , $43 and 3 players. BB pauses then checks. I bet $35. TC thinks for *ages* then calls. Now BB min-raises to $70. I re-raise all-in ($90 to go), TC just calls, fairly quickly. Now BB thinks for a while before calling the extra $20.

River ( [Ah] [Tc] [6c] [Js] ) [3d] , $313 and 3 players. I'm all-in, BB and TC check fairly quickly. ??? drags the pot.

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Postby eliteprodigy » Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:42 pm

You have 1010 for a set (2nd choice is KQc). Big Blind is holding AJ and turned his 2 pair. The other player had a flush draw to the K high and missed his club on river. Am i close ? =)
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Postby Mad Genius » Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:04 pm

BB has Aces up. You have TT. TC has Axs with the clubs.
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Postby k3nt » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:16 am

I got the same answer as elite & Mad, without looking at their answers. (I'm inclined toward Ax of clubs for TC.) I hope we're correct.

But it took me too long to think about it. I need practice practice practice so I can do this in real time.
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Postby Arx » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:44 am

I'm thinking the BB has Jc10, you have KQc and the TC is holding pocket Sixes.

BB limps out with his mid pair to test the water. You min raise your Flush/Straight draws and the TC just calls; slowplaying his set. The BB doesn't respect your min raise, putting you on Ax kind of hand and stays in and prays for the backdoor flush/straight if he's wrong.

Jack flops and BB checks trying to set a trap with his newfound 2 pair; TC sees the straight may be out and hesitates but can't lay down his Set. You re-reaise all in and TC makes his crying call and the BB now figures he is beat but is pot committed and stays in.

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Postby briachek » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:54 pm

if TC has a set like Arx said, he would have made a big error on the river to check behind because even if he's making a crying call and believes he's behind the all-in play with a straight or higher set, he should try to extract money out of the other player for a side pot to cover his losses in the main pot.

I agree with everyone else that I think you have TT for the set, TC had a flush draw and BB had AJ.
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Postby Tokenizer » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:53 pm

You: TT or 66 - someone said KQs but you 1) don't bet out others when you're drawing and 2) don't leave yourself open to getting reraised here. If you had KQs you'd call more often than not trying to keep the TC in. You could have it but you would have played it differently than I would have. Any thoughts on my reasoning here?

BB: Has to have aces up in some form... AJ seems the most likely as he was betting the flop seeing where he was at and then improved on the turn to CR you after failing to reraise on the flop.

TC: Has a busted flush draw, maybe the turn gave him a straight redraw as well with AQs. Axs is the most likely. I don't think with a bet and a raise on the flop he thought this was a good spot to slowplay his set..
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Postby Smokin'Al » Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:36 pm

Arrgh! I was quite tired last night when I posted this, and now discover that I incorrectly transcribed the flop ... it should have been [Ac] [Td] [6c], which makes a lot more sense ([Ac] not [Tc]).

Sorry everyone! (Though now you can have twice the fun :D ... or not!) So now TC isn't on Axc...

With the flop I incorrectly posted, I like AJ for BB, Axc for TC, and me on TT. I can't see with what else BB could lead out on the flop, call, then check-raise the turn; and TC's play was passive enough to be a big draw that never made it.

Results for actual hand....(sorry again!)...in white below:

Me: TT, not sure how I'd play KQc, but probably not like that!
BB had TJc: weak lead with pair + flush draw, calls raise, thinks his 2p is good on turn, with redraws if it isn't.
TC had AJo, the poor chap had dreadful position on the turn, and just enough (for him) to keep calling!
I think this set of hands makes most sense, though an argument could be made for reversing BB and TC's hands as equally/more likely...
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Postby eliteprodigy » Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:23 pm

Cool, nice post by the way. I like the thought processes behind it.
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