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Postby briachek » Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:37 pm

Hand 1

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0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Sun Nov 13 15:30:18 EST 2005
Table Table 36722 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: M0NTECRIST0 ( $18.10)
Seat 2: briachek1 ( $43.90)
Seat 3: bushelplx ( $0)
Seat 4: dumywumy ( $28.35)
Seat 5: Z3127 ( $19.12)
Seat 6: RvGilead ( $19.24)
Seat 7: bayouaggie ( $15.92)
Seat 8: wyatt86earp ( $54.55)
Seat 9: KTG_unltd ( $24.75)
Seat 10: iamsomguy14 ( $32.32)
wyatt86earp posts small blind (0.10)
KTG_unltd posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Ad, As, 4c, 3d ]
bushelplx: gg
iamsomguy14 calls (0.25)
briachek1: first one of those i've won all day
M0NTECRIST0 calls (0.25)
briachek1 calls (0.25)
briachek1: ty
dumywumy calls (0.25)
Z3127 calls (0.25)
RvGilead folds.
bayouaggie folds.
wyatt86earp did not respond in time.
wyatt86earp folds.
KTG_unltd checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, 4d, Jh ]
KTG_unltd checks.
iamsomguy14 checks.
M0NTECRIST0 checks.
briachek1 bets (1.55)
dumywumy folds.
Z3127 folds.
KTG_unltd folds.
iamsomguy14 folds.
M0NTECRIST0 raises (6.20) to 6.20
briachek1 ???

Opponent seems above average but nothing impressive. He has raised on big draws and pushed all in but not a check raise. It likely he has a set, possibly jacks in this case and I doubt its just 2 pair. Do you call? What do you do on the turn if its a blank, diamond, or pairs the board?
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Postby briachek » Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:40 pm

Hand 2

***** Hand History for Game 2877510040 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Sun Nov 13 14:54:14 EST 2005
Table Table 36548 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: michaelB1 ( $20.56)
Seat 2: briachek1 ( $49.50)
Seat 3: Poly_baller ( $25.40)
Seat 4: Platosboy ( $8.20)
Seat 5: RvGilead ( $46)
Seat 6: M0NTECRIST0 ( $34.63)
Seat 7: snapdotz ( $16.30)
Seat 8: vberge99 ( $22.95)
Seat 9: werdna1975 ( $20.30)
Seat 10: Flushola ( $19.85)
michaelB1 posts small blind (0.10)
briachek1 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Qh, As, Qd, 8h ]
Platosboy folds.
RvGilead folds.
M0NTECRIST0 calls (0.25)
snapdotz folds.
vberge99 folds.
werdna1975 raises (1.10) to 1.10
Flushola folds.
michaelB1 folds.
briachek1 calls (0.85)
M0NTECRIST0 calls (0.85)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, 5d, Qc ]
briachek1 checks.
M0NTECRIST0 bets (3)
werdna1975 calls (3)
briachek1 ???

Do you call here looking for a safe turn? Do you ever just call with top set on the flop unless a straight or flush is possible? If you do, what do you do on a straight or flush card?
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Postby Kuso » Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:12 am

hand 1
if you are fairly confident that he has a set, then i think this is a raise or fold situation. if the flush card hits on the turn, you probably won't get much out of him. as such, the raise on the flop is the only way to get all the money in -- plus you get to see two cards. that being said, i would be tempted to fold as i don't think you're getting enough odds HU even if you get all of the money in the middle on the flop.

on the other hand, if he strikes you as a low variance player who may fold without a made monster (e.g., flush or boat), then the fold equity may make the raise a good play.

hand 2
push -- you have redraws even if he hits his straight or flush. make him pay to see cards. this play also has the potential of squeezing Monte if he is the one with the nut flush draw -- that is, he would get proper odds with 2 people all-in but won't know if werdna will call or not.
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Postby Ojingo » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:41 am

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Postby briachek » Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:07 pm

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