I guess sooner or later, everyone turns against me, like a doberman who's brain has grown too big for his skull.


I'd like to hear from EVERYONE, who does NOT hate me.

I will place all the names of anyone responding to this post, in a hat Pick one and award ten dollars to the one chosen.

You must have a pokerstars account, to win.


Adam

I don't hate you. I am always bored and i like reading what you write.Dont put my name in that hat i will just blow the money.

Hey ate heres a post u made awhile ago at another forum and right after it is my response to the post. and i meant it too. i had to ask alot of questions to find where ur site was at and was glad to find it. I dont come here to praise u or rebute u. I joined this sites forum for one purpose and 1 purpose only and that is to get more valuable information and inspirational words from ate. and im sorry ate i tried i really did try to make u an cardplayer editor i cant even explain all that i did in one sentence...so youll hav to forgive me ate. im also very relieved to hav u back at ur section i began to panick a bit.

P.S... i dont really need the $10 from pokerstars i jus want to get my message clear to u thats all.



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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject: Perhaps I could have been more careful

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Ok, I have added a statement that this story came from an old book. Obviously, ATE fans KNOW that there is no way in HELLO-O that I ever intended to pass off another's work, as my own.

After rereading my original article, I did agree that use of the term "our hero" and referring to myself as an "old timer" may have unintentionally cause people to think that I was claiming to be the person making the play.

I thought that saying "our hero" and "he" would be enough for ATE fans to know that I did not make the play.

Everyone should know, that I would have been bragging like heck, tooting my own horn, saying "ATE did this" "I" then did that.

But, this uh "person" Michagan, decided to reach his own conclusions, KNOWING NOTHING AT ALL, ABOUT ATE!

Let's not forget, that this was NOT in a book I was writing, just a lesson I was trying to teach, on an Internet board.

I do not feel that a teacher has to mention where each and every single thing he(she) teaches comes from. In the vast majority of cases, they do not even know. Although I knew that this came from an old book, not remembering the title, it could have just as easily been a play I JUST HEARD FROM SOMEONE ELSE.

Anyone reading my old articles, KNOWS that I have gone WAY OUT OF MY WAY, to credit any term, play or expression that ATE did not think of

Such as "this is a MiKe Capeletti term" "the Malmuthian concept of what do you think they think you think"
Etc. etc. etc.

THIS IS THE (large structure designed to hold back bodies of water) REASON I VERY VERY RARELY EVEN READ POKERBOOKS! Intelligent players, can come up with similar plays, and I don't want some #%^@%^@#%^ to say that I got the idea elsewhere.

The overwhelming vast majority of plays I write about (and make myself)
were discovered or actually-to my knowledge-INVENTED by myself.

However, I have learned some good material over the years, from the few good players that I respect.

AM I TO NOW HAVE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF WHERE I GOT EACH AND EVERY SINGLE CONCEPT THAT I DISCUSS!!



Hey, did Thunder Keller invent the concept of the delayed bluff? No, yet he gets to write about it.


Should I have to figure out who invented the check raise?


Come ON!! really!! My mention of the story, only brought up the most basic elements, there was NO copying of the story.

All I did, was bring up a play that I felt would be educational to my readers. Had I thought of it, I probably would have been more careful, to make it 100% clear that I did not think of it.

But, I was just trying to crank out a post quickly, and didn't take the time to look it over and see that I should have done it differently.


From now on, I will have a little mention before an article, if the content is 100% ATE, or contains material from another source. If said source is known to me, I will give credit, as I have always done except this oversight.


By the way, G-money I can always write more songs, all you can do is try to steal them.


Adam
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Hey ate im sorry for downgrading u earlier i was jus mad that it was not origianl ate material. But u know what i dont really care anymore. Information u have shared with us (even if it wasnt ur own) was as valuable and inspirational as it can be and if u didnt share it with us who else would. I still respect u ate, and I will always look forward to new information and help you are willing to give to this forum.

My opinion usually does not count for much, but it is mine.
It is: I do not hate you Adam.

The 10 bucks would be better served as a bounty on your head in the next tourney, but it is yours to do with what you will.

I just started online poker 9 months ago, and I usually do not have anything to contribute to this forum, so I just lurk and learn.

Keep up the good work.

Ok, I don't want to get into another "bounty" thing. When I am giving away money, I don't want it hanging over my head.

The guy who won the bounty, wanted me to save it for him. This is unacceptable, I don't want to have to remember things.

Just like when I owe people lessons, I HAVE to give them as soon as possible

I CANNOT stand oweing anyone anything.

WHEW!! all my lessons are OVER, I don't owe any more lesson time.

I don't hate ya ATE. I check your section like 6 times a day, haha. I'm an ATE addict. Glad to have you back.

Oh come on, ATE, we all enjoy reading your posts, we don't hate ya.

Adam, I read everything that you write. Please keep up the good work.

I enjoy reading your material. I don't love or hate anyone from the online world, it would seem a bit futile! But your poker writing is really good.

Monk
xxxxx

i DON'T HATE YOU. you should already know that

Adam i have realized even after seeing you tye it in a million different places that if your aren't the top authority you are among the top authority in all of the poker world. You have done it all

For that my friend i respect you.


I can't hate and respect someone it just don't work.


So therefore i don't hate you hell i don't even dislike you.

I like this section i just don't post much because you anwseer questions i have had and i don't like wasting space when there could be something more important. This is a problem with anothe fourm which i love dealy and couldn't leave but there is alot of wasted space.

I don't see the point of saying good post or good job when you already know it is good.

Later Dusty

(Dkay04) on any online site

Hate you? I don't even know you!

And unlike the others, I hope my name gets drawn.

I think you are the cat's meow, Adam. Keep up the informative and entertaining posts.
P.S. Don't put me in for the ten-spot.

I'm about to compile the names, anyone who specifically mentioned that they didn't want in, will get their wish.

The winner MUST give me the name of their pokerstars account, or I can't give you the money.

If you don't have one, open one.

If you really try, you'd be surprized what you can do, with ten bucks.

I have a student, who made 6K, starting with 15 bucks.

Vending machine Robert, recently made 7 bills, on 7 BUCKS

ATE has won 400 or more, MANY times, starting with only five.

So, please, don't take this amount as a joke.


I've only got, like 1300 bucks to my name, so it's not like I can afford more.

The point is, I DON'T MAKE ANYTHING, FROM BEING ADAM THE EXPERT.

Yeah, about once a month, I get a studnet for 100 bucks, BUT I WORK DARN HARD, to give MORE of a lesson that they pay for.

So, this does NOT count.

I get nothing for writng, EXCEPT admiration and respect.


And, since everyone hates me, if I don't hear good things, I assume that everyone has suddently turned aginst me.

I have a fragile personality (belive it or not) And need CONSTANT praise, or I'll just go into a deppressive trance, and not do naything for DAYS.

So, mentioning how much you like the material, is a small price to pay . . . to insure the constant flow of fresh ATE material.

By the way, this drawing, was com pletly fair, with equal-sized pieces of paper.


totally random


and the winner is . . . . .. .


. . . .. . . . .. . . . . . ..


FLOPMYFLUSH!


Yeah, I know some of you will think this is RIGGED, as this person won the LAST contest.

But, that's who was drawn.


If it was RIGGED, I would have given it to someone else, since FMF had already won a prize.