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Giant wrap against lots of action

Postby GooperMC » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:52 pm

***** Hand History for Game 3219750272 *****
$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Saturday, December 17, 23:36:05 EDT 2005
Table Table 68464 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: fluffy11 ( $19.95 )
Seat 2: Petea1222 ( $18.38 )
Seat 4: MacLuvr ( $45.20 )
Seat 5: lpflame ( $65.57 )
Seat 6: IAmABuggyBot ( $24.65 )
Seat 8: tcmallen ( $46.88 )
Seat 10: fcgambler ( $20.45 )
Seat 9: winmoney_ ( $24.40 )
Seat 3: sugarbar ( $29.45 )
Seat 7: shamu222 ( $20 )
fluffy11 posts small blind [$0.10].
Petea1222 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to IAmABuggyBot [ Kd Qc Ah Jh ]
>You have options at Table 66247 Table!.
>You have options at Table 65413 Table!.
sugarbar folds.
MacLuvr folds.
lpflame calls [$0.25].
>You have options at Table 66247 Table!.
IAmABuggyBot calls [$0.25].
tcmallen raises [$1.35].
winmoney_ has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
>You have options at Table 65413 Table!.
>You have options at Table 66247 Table!.
winmoney_ calls [$1.35].
>You have options at Table 66247 Table!.
>You have options at Table 66247 Table!.
fcgambler folds.
fluffy11 folds.
Petea1222 calls [$1.10].
lpflame calls [$1.10].
IAmABuggyBot calls [$1.10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 9d, 2s ]
Petea1222 checks.
lpflame checks.
IAmABuggyBot checks.
tcmallen bets [$6.55].
winmoney_ calls [$6.55].
Petea1222 calls [$6.55].
>You have options at Table 66247 Table!.
lpflame folds.
IAmABuggyBot ???

tcmallen is a horrible play and is going to lose all his money to someone. The other players are unknown.
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Re: Giant wrap against lots of action

Postby TomG » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:43 am

If I'm counting correctly, you have 10 clean outs towards the nut straight and you're getting 4:1 pot odds to call. So you clearly have the odds to call. I don't like jamming on the flop, because it prevents you from being able to fold safely if a 3rd diamond or the board pairs on the turn. Just be prepared to either jam if you make your straight or re-evaulate based on the turn card and the pot odds your opponents are offering you to see a river card.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:37 am

The Monkman J[c]

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A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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Postby GooperMC » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:45 am

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:13 am

Because you have no hand, no fold equity, only ten outs, none of which are necessarily clean, and can still be redrawn by between 20 and 35 cards on the river to all or half the pot even if you hit the turn. You also reopen the betting to be re-raised, which you would probably have to fold to.
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Postby GooperMC » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:29 am

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:53 am

The Monkman J[c]

"Informer, you no say daddy me snow me Ill go blame,
A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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Postby GooperMC » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:33 am

I agree calling is the best play, but how bad do you think the raise was taking the stack sizes into consideration?
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:45 pm

I still don't see any reason to raise with such a speculative hand. So, pretty bad I'd say.
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Postby TomG » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:49 pm

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Postby GooperMC » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:58 am

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:07 pm

The Monkman J[c]

"Informer, you no say daddy me snow me Ill go blame,
A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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