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Some FL08 hands for analysis

Postby Stoneburg » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:42 pm

As I have stated I have practically no idea what I am doing when I play this so I thought I would just post some random hands and you can point out my mistakes. Any help is mucho appreciated. :D


#1
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with [4h], [3c], [9s], [2c].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: [Js], [Ac], [Jc] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: [3h] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: [6c] (5 players)

Final Pot:


#2
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [3h], [Ac], [9d], [5c].
3 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: [Tc], [7s], [5s] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: [8d] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB calls.

River: [6c] (3 players)

Final Pot:


#3
Preflop: Hero is SB with [Ad], [Ac], [2s], [8d].
UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: [Th], [5c], [7h] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: [6s] (3 players)

River: [7c] (3 players)

Final Pot:


#4
Preflop: Hero is Button with [Kh], [4s], [Ts], [Ac].
1 fold, MP calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: [6h], [Jh], [2d] (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: [Kc] (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

River: [3s] (3 players)

Final Pot:


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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:57 pm

Hmm.. what happened to the river!
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Postby Ojingo » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:10 pm

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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:47 pm

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Postby GooperMC » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:29 pm

Hand 1
The pre-flop limp is a little loose but not horrible, however that flop call is very loose. I don't draw to a 3 high flush on a non paired board, doing it on a paired board it poker suicide.

Hand 2
I don’t raise this pre-flop because you aren’t going to hit a flop that you can pound very often (and this isn’t a flop you can pound). I don’t hate the flop bet but the turn bet is bad IMO. The flop bet is a continuation bet which will sometimes work in O8 but the turn bet is going to cost you money. You are OOP with the second nut low and a non-nut gutshot for the high, you aren’t betting for value and you aren’t going to push both opponents out of the pot because they called the flop bet.

Hand 3
Bet and raise on every street.

Hand 4
I wouldn’t play this hand in MP, let alone for a raise first in. I fold the flop, good check on the turn, and I raise the river.

Just curious are these hands from cash games or from a SnG?
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:12 pm

Hand 1 is V poor, that's not a great hand in early-ish position and should probably be mucked preflop, on the flop you have absolutely nothing and should fold.

Hand 3 you could bet if checked to if you feel either player may muck two pair (which is unlikely) so you should generally probably check call. No real high here and your low is only 2nd best.

Hnad 4 your preflop and flop play is fine, I bet the turn too but again i'm probably looking to slowdown on the river unless I feel a high hand promotion is possible (i.e. bet with nut low and hope someone with a better high but no low, eg two pair, folds and allows you to 3/4 or scoop another low hand). In general, it'll be once in a blue moon you'll be able to fold a better high hand by betting the river, although your low could be good against 2 poor players which would make it more of a value bet.

Hand 5 I'd only raise as a blind steal without the MP limper but in truth it's not the worst play, as long as you realise it IS a position steal attempt and your hand is very mediocre (I would muck it in EP). Flop is a bit of a marginal call to be honest (your low figures to be best maybe only 50% of the time and your high values are very suspect) so to me it looks more like a fold. On the river you need to bet if checked to, or raise if one player bets, in a two-way showdown you'll be picking up half the pot or more a vast majority of the time.
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Postby Stoneburg » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:54 pm

Thanks a LOT for the advice and analysis, it has really helped me with my game. If you don't mind I'd love to get some thoughts on the hands I played today and see if you think I am making better decisions:

http://livepokerforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10257
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