Short Stack experiment

by **GeoC** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:50 pm

Ice here are the variations that I used.

All in as Rose wrote it. 9,9 10,10 or J,J all in if on the button or late pos. This assumes no raise in front of me. Played 7,7 or 8,8 in late pos assumes no raise in front of me.
2's thru 6's pretty much left out. I also made some donk plays while waiting to get involved. 4 tables and I must say you can go for quite some time without a play.

by **Johnny The Knot** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:47 am

Ice what is your PFR for this experiment?

I'm getting 3.5% but I'm not always pushing with AQ. You must be pushing a few more hands to get higher than that. It does seem one could widen a little bit because the calls are so rare. An extra hand or two would help pay for those blinds, but the occasional extra loss when you are called as a big dog could tilt the advantage.

by **thaninja** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:39 am

My AQ results were very poor - I chose not to play it after a while. The value you gain from pushing AQ is most likely from opponents folding to your push, then calling when you have better hands because you are pushin that much more often than without playin AQ at all.

I am drunk. Hope that make sense.

Just my .02.

by **Tordan** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:32 pm

by **Tordan** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:09 pm

by **Hawkeye_V** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:42 pm

This looked like something I would like to try also. Starting at NL $25, buying in for $7.50 (30bb).

1137 hands
+$27.43
4.82 PTBB / 100
5.63 VP$IP
3.34% PFR

37 pf all-ins
12 calls (32.4%)
won 6
lost 6

QQ has run into AA 3 times (sucked out last one w/ Q on river)
AKo run into AA 2 times

been called by 10-10 twice, 7-7, KJo, QTo, A9o

by **GeoC** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:32 am

by **black_knight6** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:35 am

by **iceman5** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:37 am

by **GeoC** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:10 am

played the short stack strategy.

Exactly as Rose outlined it. He added playing 77 thru JJ but would fold these hands to any raise.

by **iceman5** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:31 am

I dont even know who Rose is. I was talking about MY short stack strategy

by **black_knight6** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:34 am

Rose is the guy who came up with the SS strat that Ferguson used...his article is pasted in this thread. 30x push with QQ-AA/AK (IIRC).

by **iceman5** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:50 pm

by **black_knight6** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:12 pm

It is...we discussed it as such

:) So that's why the thread has a couple of us making a big deal about distinguishing between yours and Rose's.

by **zim** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:08 am

Well, Geo has asked for some higher stakes states, can't help there.

However, here are some micro stakes results:

Short Stack experiment

almost 3k party hands

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