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Postby MTPaid » Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:38 pm

Table: 5456433 (Real Money) Seat #9 is the dealer
Seat 2 - GRUBBEDOO ($3900 in chips)
Seat 5 - JMS38 ($2180 in chips)
Seat 8 - SYLLK59 ($2735 in chips)
Seat 9 - PAYMEDAMONEY ($4685 in chips)
GRUBBEDOO - Posts small blind $150
JMS38 - Posts big blind $300

Dealt to PAYMEDAMONEY [Td][Qc]
SYLLK59 - Folds
PAYMEDAMONEY - Raises $900 to $900
GRUBBEDOO - Folds
JMS38 - Calls $600

*** FLOP *** [9c][2c][3c]

JMS38 - Checks
PAYMEDAMONEY - Checks
*** TURN *** [9c][2c][3c] [Kd]

JMS38 - All-In $1280

$3230 in the pot.

This players seemed eh..ok. Nothing special, nothing horrible either. Only thing that stood out about him is he ripped 2 previous players who drew out on him, but didn't say a word when he doubled up on me by hitting his kicker on the river when he was dominated.

5 thoughts

1 - Most likely. He hit his King and is ahead of me, but I have 12 outs to the flush or gutshot straight.

2 - He flopped the flush and was hoping that I had a King since I raised pre-flop. Not as likely. If he doesn't have A or K of clubs I still have 9 outs to the flush.

3 - Same as scenario 2, but he has A or K of clubs. I'm drawing dead. Very unlikely.

4 - He has K of clubs and is way ahead of me now. I have 3 outs, non-club Jacks, for the straight. More likely than scenario 3, but less likely than scenario 1.

5 - He's full of it and has nothing. I have at least 12 outs and probably more. About as likely as scenario 4.

So I believe that Scenario 1 is most likely and it costs me $1280 to call a $3230 pot. How much weight do you give the other scenarios here, and remember I have less than 30 seconds to do all this in my head. Also keep in mind that I am the chip leader and I can knock him out and put everyone in the money here, but still be very much alive even if I lose the hand.

What's your move?
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Postby tommyhawk » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:34 pm

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Postby Triple B » Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:02 pm

I fold that as well. He could be stealing this one, but he could easily have you dominated with a hand with Kc in it. If I am going to catch someone making a move, I'd like to have a hand to do it with. What if he is doing this with a hand like As9s, As10c, JsJc? Do you want to put that many chips in to draw to the 3rd nut flush? You have no idea where you are at. Since he called your steal, he likely has a better hand than you. I know I wouldn't call your raise with anything near QT.

Keep your stack intact and pick a better spot.
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Postby Cactus Jack » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:55 am

Fold.
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Postby MTPaid » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:40 pm

Not one caller in the bunch? I took almost all of the time in my time bank, but I was almost positive he just hit a K with a crap kicker. With blinds of 150/300 and only 1280 left he'd have to go all-in with any K here. I called. He turned over [Ks][Jd] and the [8c] hit on the river. He had more than a few parting words.
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Postby flafishy » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:03 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:17 pm

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Postby devilmollusk » Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:05 pm

I think the check behind is a horrible play. If you want to vary your play choose a flop that you hit to check behind. This level SNG is not the time to get extra fancy like that. By checking behind you invited this difficult decision for yourself, and I think you made a questionable call. Calling an all-in bet with a draw, especially one that is not to the nuts, is a losing play. I don't see how you can put him on a hand that doesn't include one of the TWO cards that kills your draw.

I am not sure how you get 2.8:1 with 12 outs on the river... aren't you around 25% to make your hand? That looks like 4:1 to me. The pot is laying you ~ 3:1. I fold, even with your read.
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