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Postby MacAnthony » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:54 pm

The other night Derk was sweating me while in the irc channel and said he would call, but it was one of those situations where I wanted more time online to think it through. So I am bringing this to the group to tell me what they would do and hopefully I will learn from it.

This is a satellite 2 table SnG where the top 4 all get a $26 ticket and 5th place some money. 6 players are left and every one is playing fairly tight, trying not to get knocked out. I had stolen some blinds with little to no resistance.


Full Tilt Poker Game #729992373: Tier One $6+$0.60 Sit & Go (4823267), Table 1 - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:27:34 ET - 2006/06/21
Seat 2: JackBoston (2,785)
Seat 3: Crustman (9,615)
Seat 4: Sith Lord Chaos (4,610)
Seat 5: MacAnthony (3,515)
Seat 7: nowin2hold (4,805)
Seat 9: Coach Z (1,670)
Coach Z posts the small blind of 200
JackBoston posts the big blind of 400
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MacAnthony [Ah] [7s]
Crustman folds
Sith Lord Chaos folds
MacAnthony raises to 950
nowin2hold folds
Coach Z raises to 1,670, and is all in
JackBoston calls 1,270


I got dealt a decent hand in middle position 6 handed and tried to take down the blinds. The short stack moved in and even with a mediocre ace, I was willing to call, and then the BB unexpectedly calls. Every one else folded, so I could just call and close the action but calling another 920 against 2 other opponants just didn't seem right in this spot. By calling i'm commiting half my chips even though I am likely getting correct pot odds for atleast a call.

Now the best reason I can muster up to vote for a call would be since we are on the bubble and I could possibly check down to see if we can knock out the bubble player.

Thoughts? Fold or call?
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<emmasdad> pulling an ED = getting wasted and firing off 1/2 the BR???
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Postby low dough » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:04 am

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Postby MacAnthony » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:38 am

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<emmasdad> pulling an ED = getting wasted and firing off 1/2 the BR???
<Trump34> yep
<emmasdad> i have only done that 3 times in a year and a half. . .
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:10 am

You're likely dominated. You might even be in a situation like A7 v AT v 88, in which case you have to catch two 7s to win. Fold. Not worth risking half your stack with an easily dominated hand like this.

You've had a re-raise all-in that you pretty much have to call (and he knows it), and then Jack also calls off half his stack (thinking his hand fares decently against both of yours). I really don't think you're in good shape here.
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Postby emmasdad » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:49 am

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Postby Cactus Jack » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:01 pm

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Postby MacAnthony » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:02 pm

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<emmasdad> pulling an ED = getting wasted and firing off 1/2 the BR???
<Trump34> yep
<emmasdad> i have only done that 3 times in a year and a half. . .
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:19 pm

You have 2550 after the PFR. And the pot already is 950 + 600, about 1550. If Jack puts you all-in for the rest of your chips, you'd be calling about 1400 into a pot of about 3000. You're getting pretty damn close to 3:1 odds. All you're worried about is the big stack after you - but like you said, everyone should be playing VERY tight now. Your hand is more than likely the best at the table when it was folded to you.

I don't play MTTs or anything, so perhaps I'm wrong. But I'm sticking by push would be the better play. If you're going to fold your hand to a raise while you have less than 9x the BB, just don't raise in the first place. With the relative chip stacks here, there isn't many opportunities for post-flop poker. Just push your good hands in good situations.
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Postby MacAnthony » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:37 pm

There wasn't any post flop play at the table. Every one else was pushing. My only chance to get chips without a showdown was to steal the blinds.

The pot was already 4690 with 920 for me to call. Really the only question I had here was if the pot odds are worth commiting more than half of my stack to try and elimate a player.
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Postby MacAnthony » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:32 pm

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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:56 pm

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