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Whats a good ROI for SnG´s?

Postby Quisto » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:19 pm

I have a been keeping track of my SnG´s latley. I have 68 of them so far and i m wondering what a god ROI is. Should i have a larger sample before i start to analyze?
And im wondering the same about heads up.


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Postby EscapePlan9 » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:43 pm

You can analyze now if you like to see how your short-term progress is doing, but just keep in mind the results won't be statistically significant until you've finished about 150-200 SNGs. By then your statistics should have some true meaning.

A good ROI in the long-term is anything above 20%.
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Postby Quisto » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:51 pm

Does the 20% ROI apply for Heads up aswell?
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Postby Cactus Jack » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:37 am

What's good for me might not be good for you. Head's up has a lot more variance than full tables. Also, the level of buyin has an effect. Generally, it's considered good above 30% at the lowest buyins, and it goes down as the $ go up. 68 is a good start, but playing more will give you more consistency with less variances. However, also remember, that as you play more, your results should also improve as you should be getting better, too. If your results flatten out too much, it may be a sign of some leaks in your game. (Trust me, everyone has them.)

Better to look at your In The Money %. You should have a fairly even number regardless of buyin. The number should go up from when you start, level off at whatever your ability, slip when you move up, improve, then level off again. 40-50% ITM should make you a lot of money.

Then, keep an eye on your placing %. This shows pretty well where your game is at. A high percentage of 4ths says one thing, 3rds and 2nds something else. I like it when my % of 1st and 3rd is higher than my % of seconds. That means I'm playing to win, rather than playing to not lose. Where you can see how much a small sample size impacts your numbers is 1st and 2nds, as heads up play is much more luck-dependent than any other area in tournament play.

But, I'm no expert in this area. Frankly, I don't keep an eye on my stats as much as I should. I have concentrated a lot more on my play in each tournament. I figure if I'm playing as well as I can, the percentages will take care of themselves. That said, I'd like to hear what others think about this subject, because I may be missing out on information that might help improve my game.

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:02 am

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