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50+5 10-table SnG at Stars. Is this a fold?

Postby flafishy » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:15 pm

I know I should have check-raised bigger on the flop. Probably where I screwed up the hand.

In any event, should I have folded this? Or call? Villain seemed to be a bit loose but not overly so, and never got a chance to see his cards.


PokerStars Game #4481257656: Tournament #22295419, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/04/01 - 00:00:54 (ET)
Table '22295419 4' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: NIZEATRON (1020 in chips)
Seat 2: G 91 (6735 in chips)
Seat 3: flafishy (3525 in chips)
Seat 4: amyoung (3040 in chips)
Seat 5: bizzybeans (1300 in chips)
Seat 6: htaussie (4950 in chips)
Seat 7: JES21 (880 in chips)
Seat 8: bogeyfree (3105 in chips)
Seat 9: mathijs8 (1895 in chips)
G 91: posts small blind 50
flafishy: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to flafishy [9h 9c]
amyoung: folds
bizzybeans: folds
htaussie: folds
JES21: folds
bogeyfree: raises 250 to 350
mathijs8: folds
NIZEATRON: folds
G 91: folds
flafishy: calls 250
*** FLOP *** [Qs 9d 4d]
flafishy: checks
bogeyfree: bets 450
flafishy: raises 550 to 1000
bogeyfree: calls 550
*** TURN *** [Qs 9d 4d] [5d]
flafishy: bets 1000
bogeyfree: raises 755 to 1755 and is all-in
flafishy: folds
bogeyfree collected 4750 from pot
bogeyfree: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4750 | Rake 0
Board [Qs 9d 4d 5d]
Seat 1: NIZEATRON (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: G 91 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: flafishy (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: amyoung folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bizzybeans folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: htaussie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: JES21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bogeyfree collected (4750)
Seat 9: mathijs8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Postby MTPaid » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:36 am

If you thought he was on the draw, but yeah your right you shoulda put him all in on the flop. Doesn't mean he wouldn't have called.

50+100+350+250 in the pot preflop = 750

You flop a set, he bets 450 and you raise to 1000.

450 + 1000 + 750 = 2200

He only has to call 550 so he's getting perfect pot odds on his flush. You made it too easy for him, but.......

2200 + 1755 = 3955

You now have to call 1755 to win 3955 w/ 11 outs on the river + there is some chance that he is bluffing or has only top pair. If you think there is more than about 20% chance he doesn't have the flush, you should probably call according to Harrington. I'm kinda leaning toward something like [Ad]Qx or even [Qd][Xd] since you say he is loose. Can't fault you for folding, but I think I may have called if he had the 5 minutes it just took me to figure all of this out.
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Postby Kuso » Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:24 am

wwcrd?

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Postby flafishy » Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:24 am

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Postby TexasKowboy » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:30 am

The sites paying off the Donks is causing us to change our play. You never know when they have a hand. I end up calling off my stack wiith a hand I know is beat but don't believe it or Donk calls my all in on a draw of some type and hits.
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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:02 am

I was expecting you to say it was a misclick. I am shocked you folded that :shock:

I am sure he would do that with a lot of hands you beat, certainly with AQ or KQ with a diamond, or AA/KK obviously.

That would normally be the consideration here but here you're on top of that getting incredible odds! Someone would have to cut my cable with a fireaxe and duct tape my hands behind my back for me not to call that.
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Postby flafishy » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:06 pm

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