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How should I have extracted maximum value from this hand?

Postby LuparFiend » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:40 pm

$22 Speed SNG at Party Poker. 2nd hand of the SNG, so I have no reads on anyone

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t20/t40
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: t2000
UTG+1: t2000
UTG+2: t1960
MP1: t1960
MP2: t2560
MP3: t1580
CO: t2000
Button: t1980
HERO: t1960
BB: t2000

Pre-flop: (10 players) HERO is SB with [9c] [9h]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t40 (pot was t60), 2 folds, MP2 calls t40 (pot was t100), MP3 calls t40 (pot was t140), CO folds, Button calls t40 (pot was t180), HERO calls t20 (pot was t220), BB checks.

Flop: [Ks] [9s] [Ts] (t240, 6 players)
HERO bets t100, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to t200, MP2 calls t200 (pot was t540), MP3 folds, Button calls t200 (pot was t740), HERO calls t100 (pot was t940).

Turn: [8h] (t1040, 4 players)
HERO checks, UTG+1 bets t40, MP2 calls t40 (pot was t1080), Button calls t40 (pot was t1120), HERO calls t40 (pot was t1160).

River: [9d] (t1200, 4 players)
HERO checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Final Board:[Ks] [9s] [Ts] [8h] [9d]

Results:
Final pot: t1200
HERO shows [9c] [9h]
UTG+1 shows [Js] [Kh]
MP2 doesn't show [As] [8d]
Button doesn't show [Qs] [Ad]


Obviously, I played this pretty bad. I was hoping SOMEONE would bet on the river. With three people following along, I figured someone would have a baby flush, or at least two pair or even a made straight. Well, it looks like they all were drawing to the flush.

I should have definately raised some on the turn.

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Postby MTPaid » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:49 pm

I think you had a couple of busted draws out there, but it really hurts not to get anything out of quads. I think you have to bet the most amount that you think will get called or even raised. I think $300 may get called, but $200 is more likely to get raised. After the $40 turn bets you should guess that nobody had any real strength and they probably weren't going to make a large bet on the river. I always laugh when someone calls a decent sized bet, but then leads out for a fraction of that bet on the next card. I don't know what they think they are accomplishing.
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Postby Sunbob » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:06 pm

Okay, I may well be full of it because I don't like to play speed SnGs, but don't you want to be re-raising on the flop to push out the draws? I don't mind leading on the flop, although I would prefer to bet 2/3 to full pot, but you want to know if someone has flopped the flush and with a raise and two callers what do you know? What is wrong with re-raising to 600-800 on the flop and make them decide?

If not on the flop, then with those weak bets on the turn you have got to check raise. UTG+1 is the only one saying he has a made hand and he doesn't seem too proud of it. It seems to me that a speed trny forces you to be aggressive, not playing a set passively. Yes, someone may have flopped a flush - but don't you want to find that out as early as possible?
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Postby MTPaid » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:07 pm

Oops, didn't realize it was a speed SNG. Since I never play them, feel free to disregard my answer if it doesn't apply.
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:43 am

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Postby Cactus Jack » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:44 am

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