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Postby UWPg » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:57 am

Could i've got more money out or was it played right?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with [5s], [5c]. UTG posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) [4c], [Td], [Qh] (7 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (9.25 BB) [6s] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (9.25 BB) [Kd] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has Ah 7c (high card, ace).
MP2 has 2s 2c (one pair, twos).
Hero has 5s 5c (one pair, fives).
Button has 3s Ac (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.25 BB.
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Postby starstealer » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:05 am

I'm not real keen on calling a bet on the flop with a small pocket pair that has not improved - there are two overcards (that are broadway no less), and the only card you can be happy about on the turn or river is another 5. If the board pairs you can't be too happy - and I still don't consider it likely that you'll take this hand down unimproved.

I guess, you got lucky in this case - but I wouldn't advise keeping this hand in the future to a bet on the flop.

(Set it or forget it).

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Postby phatlad » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:16 pm

I agree 100% with star stealer.
If you're gonna play trash, expect it to get taken out.

(I hate those people who quote themselves, but that's one of my original lines).
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Postby briachek » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:45 pm

Also, I not a big fan of cold calling 2 bets preflop with 55 when you are the first to act after the raiser (edit: didn't see the caller in between but I would likely still fold unless i got 2 callers). If you are calling 2 bets, you want a lot of people, which you ended up getting, but you don't know that. I probably would have folded preflop unless I was in a later position and saw a couple callers. If I do play, its a set, open ended 4 card straight or fold with 55. You will only win about 1 out of 100 pots that are 4 handed on the river with 3 broadway cards and 4 overs to your pocker pair.
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Postby Nortonesque » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:47 pm

If you've played with UTG+1 long enough to know that he's raising this sort of trash, and you can get the rest of the table to fold with a 3-bet, then consider doing that and trying to take it down on the flop. MP1's presence may negate this strategy though.
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Postby briachek » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:59 pm

3 betting isn't bad if you think you can isolate and get everyone to fold, plus the preflop raiser to fold if he misses the flop and turn. Likely, if he's raising with this type of junk, he's in until at least the turn, despite your 3 bet, and will call down with any pair or even ace high. This might sound good, but most pair will be your pocket pair and if he's there til the river, you have to dodge all 5 cards to hold up. With the other guy calling in between, its hard to make this type of play.
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