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PLO8 - Push This Turn?

Postby Phil153 » Sat May 06, 2006 10:19 pm

I thought this was an interesting hand.

After looking over the hand I think the turn is a clear push, but I'll wait for responses before giving my thoughts. UTG+2 is 50/1/1, MP3 is weak tight

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $19
Hero: $51.35
UTG+2: $37.52
MP1: $9.62
MP2: $38.19
MP3: $103.11
CO: $39.18
Button: $14.72
SB: $48.50
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with [8c] [2s] [As] [8h]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.75, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: [Qd] [7s] [8d] ($9.5, 5 players)
Hero bets $9.05, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds.

Turn: [Jd] ($36.65, 3 players)
Hero bets $34.85, UTG+2 calls all-in $26.72, MP3 folds.
Uncalled bets: $8.13 returned to Hero.

River: [2d] ($90.09, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $90.09)


Results:
Final pot: $90.09
Hero shows 8c 2s As 8h
UTG+2 shows Jh Kd Ad 4d
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Postby Kuso » Sat May 06, 2006 10:31 pm

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1706915
pokenum -o8 8c 2s as 8h - jh kd ad 4d -- qd 7s 8d jd
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 40 enumerated boards containing 7s Qd Jd 8d
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 2s 8c 8h 9 9 31 0 15 0 0 0.412
Ad Kd 4d Jh 16 31 9 0 3 12 0 0.588

as a general rule, i like to be the aggressor if i know the money is all going in, so in that sense, i think it's fine. with two others still in the hand and five on the flop, i think it's fairly likely that the flush is out, and probably the nut flush. you have to catch a low or fill up.

another case for betting is that you might be able to clean up your low or your high if MP3 has A2 or QQ.

the only case for checking is if you think that villain will try to slowplay his flush or bet small and give you good odds to chase your draws. this way you'll save money if you miss, yet you'll probably be able to get a soild value bet out of villain (for most or all of the rest of his stack) if you hit. it's scary how often i see people slowplay the nuts when their hand is vulnerable.
wwcrd?

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Postby Kuso » Mon May 08, 2006 10:40 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Ojingo » Mon May 08, 2006 12:02 pm

Phil: I'd probably limp with this hand in EP and try to checkraise the flop. But then, I know next to nothing about this game so ignore me. On the turn, I admire your courage.

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Postby Kuso » Mon May 08, 2006 12:35 pm

wwcrd?

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