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A couple preflop decisions

Postby briachek » Fri May 19, 2006 11:26 am

Converter sucks.

Hand 1

I had no problem getting in against the two shorties but with this AA hand, i didn't want to reraise and get stuck for my whole stack oop against the big stack who from what i can tell, played pretty decently since i've been there. Do you still reraise to isolate and hope the big stack folds or do you call and see a flop?

***** Hand History for Game 4306355592 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Fri May 19 00:19:34 EDT 2006
Table Table 97477 (No DP) (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: pokerPUNANY ( $34.87)
Seat 2: Numbr2pencil ( $129.65)
Seat 3: poker221221 ( $253.61)
Seat 4: Binxia68 ( $10.15)
Seat 5: Mondini ( $67.65)
Seat 6: Zique ( $93.05)
Seat 7: g_unit007 ( $97)
Seat 8: pokerartist ( $21.53)
Seat 9: briachek ( $140.21)
Seat 10: RAH61 ( $39)
Binxia68 posts small blind (0.50)
Mondini posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [5d], [Ac], [Ad], [4s]
Zique folds.
g_unit007 calls (1)
pokerartist folds.
briachek calls (1)
RAH61 folds.
pokerPUNANY calls (1)
Numbr2pencil folds.
poker221221 calls (1)
Binxia68 raises (6.50) to 7
Mondini folds.
g_unit007 folds.
briachek ??????


Hand 2

RAH is a normal short stack opponent and does this with most good pair hands, likely AA, and good high wrappy hands but seems to take a flop with all other holdings. he isn't that good but always plays a short stack so that money is likely going in on any flop. Don't know the min raiser. Do I fold knowing i could be sandwiched here with the min raiser, reraise to isolate or call and take the chance that i get sandwiched in and if I do, i assume then getting all in 3 way is a given if it comes to that.

***** Hand History for Game 4306143413 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu May 18 23:54:38 EDT 2006
Table Table 97330 (No DP) (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: RAH61 ( $40.70)
Seat 2: mianic06 ( $66.35)
Seat 3: briachek ( $98.50)
Seat 4: HVACDR ( $64.12)
Seat 5: elsbetla ( $75.85)
Seat 6: PuttN4par ( $148.67)
Seat 7: gersch1959 ( $34.83)
Seat 8: Numbr2pencil ( $152.68)
Seat 9: StinkyKK ( $117.54)
elsbetla posts small blind (0.50)
PuttN4par posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek [Td], [Jh], [Qd], [Th]
gersch1959 raises (2) to 2
Numbr2pencil folds.
StinkyKK calls (2)
RAH61 raises (9.50) to 9.50
mianic06 folds.
briachek ????
Last edited by briachek on Fri May 19, 2006 11:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Ojingo » Fri May 19, 2006 11:31 am

There's one other shortie in the hand and one normal stack. If a reraise would get the other full stack out then go ahead. A fancy play which may not work here is to reraise, but not full pot, so that you give pokerPUNANY a chance to make an allin rereraise, after which you can push. Often when shortstacks see that there will be a big multiway pot they make the push...
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Postby briachek » Fri May 19, 2006 11:34 am

Ojingo, i added another hand to the post that you missed while you were answering.

Also, for hand 1, i don't know if I can get the full stack out. He doesn't have high aggression but is semi loose so it could be a wide variety of hands but also a big hand and he doesn't raise like me. If its unknown if I can get him out, do you do it anyway? Its also possible the other shorties calls all in which gives him nice odds to chase his hand where he will have position on me.
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Postby Ojingo » Fri May 19, 2006 11:34 am

Hand2: hero calls.
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Postby briachek » Fri May 19, 2006 11:39 am

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Postby Ojingo » Fri May 19, 2006 11:43 am

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Postby Ojingo » Fri May 19, 2006 11:46 am

In hand 2 I don't mind getting all in if I'm pretty confident that both of them have AA, in which case you're a money favourite in most scenarios. (The exception being when both of your flush draws are in their hands and they have your T's.) If they don't block your draws then you're easily 40% in a 3-way pot, and you're guaranteed to put them on tilt if you win.
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Postby Aisthesis » Fri May 19, 2006 3:47 pm

I think it depends somewhat on the table, but with your read on deep stack, I think I'd just call in hand 1.
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Postby Aisthesis » Fri May 19, 2006 3:53 pm

Hand 2: I think the mini-raiser is going to call rather than re-raise more often than not. So, I'd definitely call that one. If mini-raiser re-raises, I can go either way. Objectively, you probably have pot odds to call if you have 2 presumed AA hands, which I rather doubt. I think these mini-raises more often mean drawy-type hands.
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Postby briachek » Fri May 19, 2006 3:55 pm

Hand 1 - I decided to just call

briachek calls (6)
pokerPUNANY folds.
poker221221 calls (6)
** Dealing Flop ** : [4h], [Jc], [6h]
Binxia68 bets (3.15)
Binxia68 is all-In.
briachek calls (3.15)
poker221221 calls (3.15)
Creating Main Pot with $31.80 with Binxia68
** Dealing Turn ** : [8s]
briachek checks.
poker221221 bets (20)
briachek folds.
** Dealing River ** : [Qh]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $31.80 | Side Pot 1: $20 | Rake: $1.65
Board: [ 4h Jc 6h 8s Qh ]

pokerPUNANY balance $33.87, lost $1 (folded)
Numbr2pencil balance $129.65, didn't bet (folded)
poker221221 balance $275.26, bet $30.15, collected $51.80, net +$21.65 [ 3s 6d 7h 5c ] [ a straight, four to eight -- 8s,7h,6h,5c,4h ]
Binxia68 balance $0, lost $10.15 [ Ks 9c 6c Kh ] [ a pair of kings -- Ks,Kh,Qh,Jc,8s ]

Hand 2

I weakly folded and hated myself for it the second i did it. I would have won a decent pot, if i got to see the turn which i wouldn't have by calling and then folding that flop.

briachek folds.
HVACDR folds.
elsbetla folds.
PuttN4par folds.
gersch1959 calls (7.50)
StinkyKK calls (7.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7s, 4s, 7d ]
gersch1959 checks.
StinkyKK checks.
RAH61 bets (28.50)
gersch1959 calls (25.33)
gersch1959 is all-In.
StinkyKK folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 8h ]
Creating Main Pot with $77.66 with gersch1959
** Summary **
Main Pot: $77.66 | Side Pot 1: $3.17 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 7s 4s 7d Tc 8h ]

RAH61 balance $83.53, bet $38, collected $80.83, net +$42.83 [ 4h 9s Ac Ah ] [ two pairs, aces and sevens -- Ac,Ah,Tc,7s,7d ]
gersch1959 balance $0, lost $34.83 [ Kc 3s 6h Ks ] [ two pairs, kings and sevens -- Kc,Ks,Tc,7s,7d ]
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