Interesting $2k hand

[januarymute]

I was on monkey tilt when this hand went down but it's still interesting... Beachlasse is very strong player, c-bets frequently, tough to narrow his range. tlkup4ml48 is also relatively strong but not particularly clever or anything. Curious how people would play this in stages.

***** Hand History for Game 4294913511 *****
$2000 PL Omaha Hi-Lo - Wednesday, May 17, 18:39:05 ET 2006
Table Table 95179 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: PARAB0LA ( $2063.17 )
Seat 7: HakAllah ( $2000 )
Seat 4: tlkup4ml48 ( $4853.35 )
Seat 8: AndreasH ( $2309.40 )
Seat 9: Naruto69 ( $1089 )
Seat 10: tutu22 ( $478 )
Seat 6: gotya11 ( $855.50 )
Seat 5: qazxcvbnm333 ( $707 )
Seat 1: THEPOUNDER1 ( $400.75 )
Seat 2: beachlasse ( $1829 )
gotya11 posts small blind [$10].
HakAllah posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HakAllah [ 7s 4h 5c 8c ]
AndreasH folds.
Naruto69 folds.
THEPOUNDER1 folds.
beachlasse calls [$20].
PARAB0LA folds.
tlkup4ml48 calls [$20].
qazxcvbnm333 calls [$20].
gotya11 calls [$10].
HakAllah checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 8s, 6c ]

gotya11 checks.
HakAllah checks.
beachlasse bets [$97].
tlkup4ml48 calls [$97].
qazxcvbnm333 folds.
gotya11 folds.
HakAllah ???

[Phil153]

Yeah, it's an interesting hand, but I'd fold and find a better spot.

[TomG]

hmmmm, (crappy flush draw + crappy pair + crappy straight draw + crappy low draw) still equals crap last i checked. fold the flop. oops, i forgot to add tilt to the equation. that cancels out "crappy" from the equation and you should check-raise the max.

[januarymute]

Ha, sweet! TG pm'd me "dear januarymute,

your ridiculously over bankrolled ass is cordially invited to attend the btp cash game on sunday night, 7:30 pm pst.

regards,
tg"

I am there.


by the way, upon further reflection, this hand is pretty uninteresting, here's the rest of it for your amusement:

Dealt to HakAllah [ 7s 4h 5c 8c ]
AndreasH folds.
Naruto69 folds.
THEPOUNDER1 folds.
beachlasse calls [$20].
PARAB0LA folds.
tlkup4ml48 calls [$20].
qazxcvbnm333 calls [$20].
gotya11 calls [$10].
HakAllah checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 8s, 6c ]

gotya11 checks.
HakAllah checks.
beachlasse bets [$97].
tlkup4ml48 calls [$97].
qazxcvbnm333 folds.
gotya11 folds.
HakAllah calls [$97].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]

HakAllah checks.
beachlasse bets [$388].
tlkup4ml48 folds.
HakAllah calls [$388]. <--- coulda lived with the result if I had raised max here

** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]

HakAllah bets [$1164]. <--- "how could I possibly be getting scooped?" bet
beachlasse is all-In [$1324] <--- awwww, f.uck
HakAllah calls [$160].
HakAllah shows [ 7s, 4h, 5c, 8c ] a flush, ten high.
HakAllah shows 8,6,5,4,2 for low.
beachlasse shows [ 3c, 2h, 6h, Ac ] a flush, ace high. <---duh, what else limps and pots flop
beachlasse shows 8,6,3,2,A for low.
beachlasse wins $1906 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
beachlasse wins Lo ($1906) from the main pot with 8,6,3,2,A.

[Kuso]

i think this is an interesting hand, in that it's one that is often misplayed.

i think all three actions can be justified on the turn (in no particular order):

1) fold -- why put money in if you're likely playing for half (at best).

2) call -- you hand is good enough to show down, but a river flush card (that should be check-folded to) sucks.

3) raise -- make the jackball pay for his draws. you'd feel like a genius if a high non-club card came. i think this is mute's "usual" line, and i wonder why he didn't play it this way.

[Aisthesis]

With position I could see calling or raising as becoming much more attractive.

OOP, you're drawing to a dodgy split against 97 (assuming the 97 can't improve the straight) as made hand unless your flush is good, which is awfully low to have any real confidence in with an LP caller.

Without position, I think you're likely going to end up risking too much on an iffy draw here.

I might also check-raise it OOP to these weak mini-bets that I've gotten accustomed to as meaning just some vague semblance of a hand from readable opponents at the $100 game, but that looks like a pottish bet, and surely that kind of nonsense slows down a lot at the $2000 level.

[Aisthesis]

Sorry, forget all of my comments. I thought we were playing Hi only here.

[JDLush]