$25 6-max hand

[Jarren]

ok so a little history.

I am playing at this donktastic table with two total morans. Both of them are playing roughly 80% of the pot and are calling down with gut-shots, etc.

so I am in a hand with Moran #1 earlier that goes like this

I have J2[c] in the BB. Moran #1 limps UTG, I check

flop comes 3[c] 4[c] 6[h]

I bet the pot, he raises to $4.50. Normally I wouldn't call this raise but this is a huge raise. I figure he has like A6 or maybe two pair here becuase it is an unusually high raise

so I smooth call thinking I can take this hand from him on the turn

turn is a 5[d]
so I have a straight and am freerolling to a flush, I check he bets $2 I shove (an overbet knowing he can't fold it)

well here is where things get interesting DOnkey #2 types in "fold"

so he thinks and thinks and finally folds saying he had 63. so I politely type in something like "Don't tell other people what to do with their hands please" because I have played with Donkey #1 before and he would have called me 90% of the time

well these two donkeys (who say they don't know each other) get all upptiy and start whining and complaining and saying "we all knew what you had"
so I tell them "I had AT of clubs, just a flush draw"

Well these two guys get all table captain on me and start telling me that if I played my hand that way I was goign to lose all my money to them soon....


so.....fast forward a few hands. Donkey #2 is trying his best to take pots from me raising me, etc.

so we have this hand.

I raised 4Xbb with AQ[h]

donkey #2, re-raises me from the BB (min raise)

flop comes q 4 6 rainbow.
donkey checks, I check

Turn is a 5
donkey min bets .25
I raise to $5

donkey shoves in for $12 (so $7 to call)

anyone call this? I figure he has to have AA, KK here right? or am I just seeing monsters under the bed making a mistake.

[GodlikeRoy]

Your call on the flop in hand #1 concerns me, what were you planning on doing if the turn bricked?

Hand #2 is difficult. Has he been min-reraising you much? What kinds of hands is he showing down? Does he minbet often?

The pot is ~$20 and it's $7 to call, against a villian 'out to get you' and the fact you call him a donk, i'd probably call.

[Jarren]

Hand #1 is interesting

I have caught villian doing what he did (large raises) with hands like top pair weak kicker, even top pair good kicker and he will play for his stack. My main thought process was if I catch I can stack him (he was at a full stack) so I wouldn't call that hand against most players but against him I am ok with it because I know he will stack off to me. (just because it was my thought at the moment doesn't mean it was correct! in 90% of cases this is an insta-fold for me)


I assumed he had some sort of 6 in hand #1

In hand #2 the villian hasn't been showing many hands at all. He re-raised me a couple times but as a general rules when someone re-raises me and then checks a ragged flop I assume the worst, especially at this level, because everyone tries to be tricky.

when he checked I instantly put him on a big pair since in previous hands he has re-raised me (usually I didn't have a good enough hand to 3-bet) and he bet out on the flop when I missed.

[T-Rod]