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Push and Pray? (NL200 FR)

Postby MVPSPORTS » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:54 pm

Does that fact that I'm against 3 shorties here make this just a push and pray no one has AA or a 7?

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 46134725 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 06 01 16:45:33 2006
Table Bud Ice (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 10: Manque ( $191.55 )
Seat 1: SUPRAT78 ( $99.92 )
Seat 2: MeDopp ( $252.5 )
Seat 3: got2dv8 ( $106 )
Seat 4: Pucher ( $94.48 )
Seat 5: FUGGEDUP ( $189.65 )
Seat 6: FeebleDK ( $91 )
Seat 8: beatme66 ( $267.6 )
Seat 9: PauloS ( $200 )
beatme66 posts small blind [$1].
PauloS posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FUGGEDUP [Kh] [Kc]
Manque folds.
SUPRAT78 raises [$6].
MeDopp folds.
got2dv8 calls [$6].
Pucher folds.
FUGGEDUP raises [$18].
FeebleDK calls [$18].
beatme66 folds.
PauloS folds.
SUPRAT78 calls [$12].
got2dv8 calls [$12].
** Dealing Flop ** [7d] [7h] [4h]
SUPRAT78 checks.
got2dv8 checks.
FUGGEDUP bets [$100].
FeebleDK calls [$73].
SUPRAT78 folds.
got2dv8 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [Js]
** Dealing River ** [9d]
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Postby mike_m235 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:13 pm

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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:33 pm

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Postby Chance Artanis » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:41 pm

[quote="mike_m235"]Can I vote for a bigger raise preflop? I think to more like $25. That more likely thins the field, and if not, makes the push an easier decision.

Man. Ice always gives this kind of advice, too... I would have bumped it to $18 as well. I don't want to lose action, and it's more effective than a min-raise. If there were 3 or 4 callers for 6$ each, then I'd bump it to $28 or $32, but only have 14$ in the pot when the action reaches him, I don't see how you can bump it to $24 or $28 w/o totally giving away your hand.. meh
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Postby mike_m235 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:53 pm

So take down the pot preflop with $15 of money in it and no risk...you just can't live for long going to flops with 3 other players against your AA. Because it's too hard to get away from them.

I'm going to share a line of PT stats with you:

I can't cut it and paste it, so I'll transcribe:

AA
Times: 146
Win %: 91.78%
Net: $1199
BB/Hand: 5.64
WTSD: 41.75%
W$SD: 79.9%

This is on about 26K hands at 4 different levels (NL25-NL200)
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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:05 pm

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Postby Triple B » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:19 pm

I agree with Stoneburg here. You have a raiser AND a caller. If it was just a raise in front, the $18 raise is OK, but with both, you need to raise more as the pot is bigger. Its the same reason why you bet more on the turn than on the flop. Pot odds/implied odds...

A raise to $24 is mandatory at a minimum, IMO, and $30-36 is not out of the question. People want to call. Let them pay more for the privilege.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:25 pm

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Postby mike_m235 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:46 pm

results? He turned over QQ...ship it
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:04 pm

GOOD GUESS...
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Postby kennyg » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:22 pm

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