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PLO$25 - Am I suppsed to fold just because I'm beaten?

Postby Stoneburg » Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:32 am

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $24.75
UTG+1: $24.75
MP1: $24.15
MP2: $41.95
Hero: $24.25
Button: $15.85
SB: $44.66
BB: $13.10

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with [2s] [Ks] [5c] [Kh]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25 (pot was $0.85), Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: [Jc] [8h] [Kd] ($1.5, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1.45, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $7.25, 3 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: [Ah] ($23.25, 3 players)
UTG raises all-in $17.25, UTG+1 calls all-in $17.25, Hero calls all-in $16.75.


It's pretty clear at least one jackball hit his straight...




On a side note I limped AA75r UTG+1 earlier, a few other limpers and then the BB sticks in a raise. He's shortstacked and could be tilting... right or wrong? That AA hand is just about as bad as they come and I figured not many flops are going to fit it.
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Postby Kuso » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:24 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Kuso » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:26 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:28 am

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Postby Phil153 » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:29 am

BIG WORDS
It's good to know about four or five biggish words you can stuff into a conversation so you sound well read. Don't fuck them up the way black people do, but don't overuse them either. We recommend putting your fancy word next to a swear. Here are some examples: "…so she walks in all precocious like we give a shit," or "…and it's the same old pedantic bullshit he's always going on about," or "She's got this big fucking turgid zit right in the centre of her face."
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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:45 am

It's not PLO8, just PLO.
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Postby Phil153 » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:22 am

BIG WORDS
It's good to know about four or five biggish words you can stuff into a conversation so you sound well read. Don't fuck them up the way black people do, but don't overuse them either. We recommend putting your fancy word next to a swear. Here are some examples: "…so she walks in all precocious like we give a shit," or "…and it's the same old pedantic bullshit he's always going on about," or "She's got this big fucking turgid zit right in the centre of her face."
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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:37 am

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Postby Kuso » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:32 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Kuso » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:32 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:32 am

100 in the pot heads up, opponent bets 100 all-in.

100 for you to call to win 200. I would say pot odds are 33.3%, not 50%.

Your way of calculating is how to get american* odds isn't it?

Obviously one of us is confused... I'm hoping it's not me...



* and british I'm guessing
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Postby Kuso » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:56 am

yeah, you're right. i was mucking up the odds and percentage systems.

i've been laying off the hooch after a bender a couple of weeks ago, and i think it's adversely affecting my thinking. i really should drink more. :twisted:
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:33 pm

The Monkman J[c]

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:39 pm

For the benefit of those who can't count, you need somewhere in the region of 7 outs once all three hands are flipped up to make calling somewhere in the +EV ball-park. If no-one has ANY board card paired you've got 10 outs. Your main worry is someone holding something like AJTQ which breaks 4 of your outs and leaves you slightly -EV. But most of the time I think you have odds to make a marginal call here, especially taking into account the 25PLO donk factor.

I was only yanking your chain there Kuso, as I hope you realised :lol: you're +EV against two bare straights (quite nicely so, in fact), though in reality you're probably looking at a very marginal call.
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